most capable off-road pickup?

Kaisen

Explorer
I assumed the OP's query was for bone stock pickups available for purchase in the US today

If we can count vehicles sold in other countries, vehicles no longer sold, conversions, swaps, mods, and aftermarket solutions.....then my answers will change :D
 

Clutch

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I assumed the OP's query was for bone stock pickups available for purchase in the US today

If we can count vehicles sold in other countries, vehicles no longer sold, conversions, swaps, mods, and aftermarket solutions.....then my answers will change :D

LOL, oh how we like to stray off topic. :)

A stock RC Taco is still my vote over the PW and Raptor since they do not have a manual trans option, I mean, what is the point
of getting out of bed in the morning if you can't shift your own gears?

Perhaps with some haggling with the Yoda dealer, they can mount some decent all terrain tires. ;) consider it an option up, rather than aftermarket.
 
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madmax718

Explorer
Love both. But if you value your sheet metal, some trails are just too narrow. Power wagon, while the departure isn't as good, doesn't sacrifice any for its winch.

Does anyone make a flush mount winch for the raptor?

Pin striping on a full sized rig is just .. unavoidable. Smaller vehicles can get by with a slight marring here and there, but full sized probably cleared their path. lol.

power wagon has usable bed side storage.

Raptor just looks.. hot. lol.

Sorry, I know I added absolutely nothing to this post.
 

Fireman78

Expedition Leader
Ford Raptors are fun trucks no doubt. If I had the dough to just have a toy truck, that would be it for sure. They Power Wagon is a grunt, a workhorse that NO other stock truck can compare to, period. The Tacoma, which I have had a few of those,, are great trucks as well, but there is just somethings a mid size, under powered truck just can't do. The original question on this thread is impossible to answer, because the trucks are just so different, and have different purposes. "Most capable" is a broad term. ;) Here is a short little ode to my beloved Power Wagon.











 

Clutch

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The original question on this thread is impossible to answer, because the trucks are just so different, and have different purposes. "Most capable" is a broad term.

Fuso with a 12-14' bed. Can do a lot more with that than a 8' typical US truck bed.

USA available

http://www.mitfuso.com/en-US/Canter-Work-Truck-Models/FG4X4

IIRC the crew cab is available now, if not a single cab would still work for me.

Oh just think of the possibilities...

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With a 12-14' bed, you could stick a "cube" FWC on there sideways...then have a nice little platform left for gear, motor-bikes, or hanging out chillaxing...

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Buliwyf

Viking with a Hammer
LOL



If you're gonna get a heavy pick-em-truck like the Ram, get a diesel...why even waste your time with the gasser? Not much better combo than a Cummins and the manny trans. Hell, if you do not know how to add a winch to your vehicle, you probably shouldn't be going off-road into the boonies in the first place.



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I agree with your other points except for the above.
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Because dragging a heavy ******** engine up a muddy slick river bank is a whole lot harder than a truck with a dinky little small block. I've noticed time and again, gas trucks outperform diesels offroad, just like mildly built 4 cyl Jeeps performed as well as our I6 Jeeps. Poor Dodge can't escape the fanfair for the Cummins I6, rectangle peg being hammered into a square hole. You can bet you $$$ that Cummins and Dodge wanted to build a V8 when they left the B series behind...... That tall I6engine sits kinda low. IIRC the Power Wagon only comes in gas for exactly that reason. I'll let the Dodge guys fact check that, I'm a ford guy, so I'm not sure. I'm of the opinion that unless you need fuel eating giant tires or tow heavy almost allways, the gasser is the way to go. More reliable, and cheaper to maintain, lighter weight. Cross the CAT scales with a Dodge Cummins with a 15k winch up front. That front axle is heavier than most think.
 

Clutch

<---Pass
I agree with your other points except for the above.
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Because dragging a heavy ******** engine up a muddy slick river bank is a whole lot harder than a truck with a dinky little small block. I've noticed time and again, gas trucks outperform diesels offroad, just like mildly built 4 cyl Jeeps performed as well as our I6 Jeeps. Poor Dodge can't escape the fanfair for the Cummins I6, rectangle peg being hammered into a square hole. You can bet you $$$ that Cummins and Dodge wanted to build a V8 when they left the B series behind...... That tall I6engine sits kinda low. IIRC the Power Wagon only comes in gas for exactly that reason. I'll let the Dodge guys fact check that, I'm a ford guy, so I'm not sure. I'm of the opinion that unless you need fuel eating giant tires or tow heavy almost allways, the gasser is the way to go. More reliable, and cheaper to maintain, lighter weight. Cross the CAT scales with a Dodge Cummins with a 15k winch up front. That front axle is heavier than most think.

I agree with that.

I am coming from the view of, if you need a full size 3/4-1 ton truck, go all the way and get a diesel. (money be damned) Like gas, stick with a 1/2 ton, like you said, lighter is better off-road.

So that brings us back to the lonely bare bones regular cab banger Tacoma, it is lightweight, damn short wheel base.... Which is more capable? Would be fun to compare side by side the PW, Raptor, and the Taco. Spec them all with the same style tires, say BFG all terrains. and see what happens.
 
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crismateski

American Adventurist
I agree with that.

I am coming from the view of, if you need a full size 3/4-1 ton truck, go all the way and get a diesel. (money be damned) Like gas, stick with a 1/2 ton, like you said, lighter is better off-road.

So that brings us back to the lonely bare bones regular cab banger Tacoma, it is lightweight, damn short well base.... Which is more capable? Would be fun to compare side by side the PW, Raptor, and the Taco. Spec them all with the same style tires, say BFG all terrains. and see what happens.

As a power wagon owner, I have spent a lot of time wheeling with Tacomas. There are times when the wheelbase and power give me the upper hand and times when the Tacoma can put the small size to use. Every situation is a little different. The only time I have ever seen a Raptor off the pavement is Border Patrol, and they don't really hang out with us
 

Fireman78

Expedition Leader
The only time I have ever seen a Raptor off the pavement is Border Patrol, and they don't really hang out with us
At this years Expo I camped right next to several BP Dudes driving Jeeps. They came over and were checking out my Power Wagon. I think I remember one of them saying he missed his Power Wagon. Just sayin. ;)
 
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