most capable off-road pickup?

ssapach

Adventurer
I'm not going to say that larger vehicles don't belong off-road at all, some people can do just fine with them.

I have more fun with a smaller rig though. Less headache about where you can't fit or can't turn around. It makes the difference between a 3 point turn and a 30 point turn in some situations.

Personal preference for me really, but I like my 1980's Toyota size vehicles. :elkgrin:
 

Barrows

Adventurer
I think the width and length of full size trucks makes it very difficult for them to be capable on the northeast coast. The trees are close together and the rocks covered in mud. I have wounds on my wrangler form trees and rocks, I can't imaging doing the same trails in a full size. Even a tacoma is going to see some damage due to the wheelbase. Just my two cents....:coffeedrink:
 

zimm

Expedition Leader
a pickup sized locked 6x6 on portals will go where it wants. it wants to go straight.
 

zimm

Expedition Leader
Clearly you've never spent time wheeling out east, my cruisers width is a liability on the trail I'm well aware of that. You can run a full size pick up if you want but don't expect to walk away without body damage, don't believe me? Ask Roudy who ran VOT in an excursion. Hell a long bed double cab tacoma is as long as an F150 and just as cumbersome. I'm just pointing out that full size trucks are too large to run on a lot of trails. But hey what do I know, keep cruising the mall in your suburban.


i love ya man, and ill be happy to drink to you with your scotch, but i gotta tell ya, one of my rigs is an f350, 4" lift lsd's 35's and a camper in back... take out the alaskan camper, cause it cant take a hit, and it'll walk the VOT route. where the mog fit, i fit. where old mog bogged, i have a 460. its brainfart easy to drive offroad. dont assume the redneck chose the layout because they are stupid, they chose it because its sheap, reliable, and makes it loaded to the used tire bonfire everytime.
 

bloodyWEST

Adventurer
big trucks have plenty of room for these in the bed

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Flys Lo

Adventurer
i'll comb over and dress that way for a mill spec 461 6x6. where do i apply?????
My brother (the one with the lame haircut in the photo) runs part of the Mercedes Benz commercial division here in Aus, so he gets to bring home cool rigs for both of us to try and destroy (Mog's, Zetro's, 6x6 Military G-Wagens etc. etc.)

The 6x6 G-Wagen is pretty cool, and would make a decent overland rig, they built them originally for the Aus Military, but someone thought it a good idea to drop the AMG V8 in it to sell to middle east (where it will probably sell well). The Military ones come with the 3.0l V6 diesel.
 

Ridge Runner

Delta V
How do they setup their tandem axles? Are there two driveshafts coming off the back of the transfer case or does the forward axle have a shaft going from it to the rear axle?
 

Buliwyf

Viking with a Hammer
I can't name too many places out east that I want to drive to and can't. Most of my destination hotspots in the east require a backpack&boots, motorcycle, mountainbike, or kayac. My expo rig is just there to get me to the campground or trail head. 4 wheelin is different than Expo travel.
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If I want to go 4-wheelin. Then I just park my F250 at the trailhead, Drop the trailers tailgate and drive my Jeep off. Most of those tight trails just go around in circles, great fun for my DRZ400S, but useless if I actually want to get TO anywhere. Which brings up another point. Many of the muddy access roads I cross are the bane of little trucks. Sometimes a little extra girth is handy.
 

Buliwyf

Viking with a Hammer
How do they setup their tandem axles? Are there two driveshafts coming off the back of the transfer case or does the forward axle have a shaft going from it to the rear axle?

First axle has a shaft coming out of it. There is a center differential on that shaft in that axle. Hopefully lockable.
 

zimm

Expedition Leader
My brother (the one with the lame haircut in the photo) runs part of the Mercedes Benz commercial division here in Aus, so he gets to bring home cool rigs for both of us to try and destroy (Mog's, Zetro's, 6x6 Military G-Wagens etc. etc.)

The 6x6 G-Wagen is pretty cool, and would make a decent overland rig, they built them originally for the Aus Military, but someone thought it a good idea to drop the AMG V8 in it to sell to middle east (where it will probably sell well). The Military ones come with the 3.0l V6 diesel.


the amg one is "monster truck" retarded. the AUS mil spec though, is heir to the 6x6 pinz crown. gotta love it.

any detailed pics of the rear driveshaft arrangement?
 

LovinPSDs

Adventurer
pretty unrelated, but what speed are portals good for? Can you rip down the highway at 80mph?

And can, they handle big diesel torque?
 
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RangeBrover

Explorer
pretty unrelated, but what speed are portals good for? Can you rip down the highway at 80mph?

And can, they handle big diesel torque?

The H1 Alphas can run easily at 80 and they use portals. The older trucks range from 55-70 as a top speed depending on the year and power train.
 

Flys Lo

Adventurer
How do they setup their tandem axles? Are there two driveshafts coming off the back of the transfer case or does the forward axle have a shaft going from it to the rear axle?
The centre axle has a shaft running from it, to the rear most axle.

It's fitted with 5 differential locks, which engage in 3 stages, first stage engages the "centre" diff lock in the transfer case, second stage locks both rear axles, and the locker between them, and the final stage locks the front axle as well.

Having all the lockers is handy, but you need it, as it doesn't have a great amount of axle articulation.
the amg one is "monster truck" retarded. the AUS mil spec though, is heir to the 6x6 pinz crown. gotta love it.

any detailed pics of the rear driveshaft arrangement?
I've had to hand the truck back - so I don't have pics, but I have described it as best I could above.
pretty unrelated, but what speed are portals good for? Can you rip down the highway at 80mph?

And can, they handle big diesel torque?
Depends on the portals - most of them are fitted to trucks that come with diesels, so are fine there, but because some of them use straight cut gears in the portal itself, they can overheat at higher speeds (single tooth engagement as opposed to multiple tooth engagement with helical gears).

I personally don't see the need for portals unless you want to fit CTIS.
 

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