Multiple gun purchases???

[FourByLand]

Would that be from long range or short range? One threat or two? Civilian or Military? Trained threat, or psycho? Semi auto or revolver? Semi auto or bolt action? Synthetic or wood furniture? Dependable mechanical device that will never fail (!), or spare? Hunting or pure defense? Carry it always or leave it at home? Big threat or little threat? Experienced shooter or novice?

It is up to the individual to decide for themselves what, and how much, they need. The Government is made of people. Once people join government, nothing magical happens to them - they are people, now armed with power and agendas. Their ability to decide what is best for us and how we should live our lives is no better than the nosey neighbor down the street or the HOA president.

Being free is not having one choice. :ylsmoke:

What good do they do him if he goes to the gas station and get's shot because he left it in the car? What about all of the kids at the high schools and colleges??? Seems like the freedom should apply to some and not all... To me it's scary to think that any old GI Joe wanna be can have an arsenal of guns to pass out to his drug dealing buddies and because they are dealing can afford to live in your neighborhoods...

 

[flyingwil]

What good do they do him if he goes to the gas station and get's shot because he left it in the car? What about all of the kids at the high schools and colleges??? Seems like the freedom should apply to some and not all... To me it's scary to think that any old GI Joe wanna be can have an arsenal of guns to pass out to his drug dealing buddies and because they are dealing can afford to live in your neighborhoods...

Let's keep this thread clean, constrictive, and PG.






You hit me. Wen and I live in a good neighborhood. The house 4 doors north to us was recently rented out by some gang members who are dealing out of their house. Since they moved in we now have crime, and several vehicle thefts and break-ins. Our neighborhood is now arming themselves since we get minimal support from the local PD. We have been told to just keep calling the PD and pestering.

An hour ago my wife, Wen, called me to say that the van that normally parks there intentionally drove by and flashed gang signs at her. After our vehicles were broken into on Saturday.

It is sad to say that we now sleep with a live round in the chamber.... and rumor has it that our fellow neighbors are doing likewise.

Guns need respect, and need to be treated with respect. It is a privilege to own a gun, and a right we have that other countries may not. The laws past were common thoughts, and we all played a part in the laws by voting. The way I see it is simple: it is what it is, and we are fortunate enough to own a gun.

 

[FourByLand]

Wil,Feel free to edit (moderate) as you see fit... i'm not trying to start an argument, just trying to understand why people are upset that they have to wait to purchase multiple guns... buy one and in 30 days by another.Sorry to hear about your neighborhood... but when I mentioned that little scenario I was thinking about when I lived in Tucson and saw on the news where a community on the "nicer" Northside found that a house had been rented out by some pretty big drug dealers and there was a drive by shooting because some deals had gone bad or whatever... just remember the criminals can get them just as easy and will probably have more.

 

[Schattenjager]

What good do they do him if he goes to the gas station and get's shot because he left it in the car? What about all of the kids at the high schools and colleges??? Seems like the freedom should apply to some and not all... To me it's scary to think that any old GI Joe wanna be can have an arsenal of guns to pass out to his drug dealing buddies and because they are dealing can afford to live in your neighborhoods...

My friend Louis, you are way above average intelligence and I do not presume to change anyone's thinking - only offer my take on the subject. For the record, I really enjoy your posts and do not want to proffer an opinion that could be taken as insult.

Having a gun is like wearing a seatbelt - to many it is a good idea but it guarantees nothing. On any given day anything can happen. I think criminals move into nice neighborhoods because they feel (perhaps correctly) it's safer there for them - they will be the only one to have guns. As primitive as this may sound, I honestly believe that if a car crook, housed in a nicer 'hood, gets blown to bits by a po'd car owner, the scenario
will be no different from their old 'hood. Then there is no reason for them to take over. The only reason bad people succeed is because nice people let them.

But protecting ourselves from creeps has absolutely nothing to do with the right to have arms, or as in the original post, the number or type we choose to have. At least according to the constitution.

 

[flyingwil]

Wil,Feel free to edit (moderate) as you see fit... i'm not trying to start an argument,

No need to Moderate nor edit... Just trying to keep this thread from going downhill and needing moderation. So far great job... at that one.

 

[DaveInDenver]

It is a privilege to own a gun

It is not a privilege, which are subject to whims and opinion of politicians. It is a right cemented by the sacrifice by countless before us.

 

[flyingwil]

Having a gun is like wearing a seatbelt - to many it is a good idea but it guarantees nothing. On any given day anything can happen. I think criminals move into nice neighborhoods because they feel (perhaps correctly) it's safer there for them - they will be the only one to have guns. As primitive as this may sound, I honestly believe that if a car crook, housed in a nicer 'hood, gets blown to bits by a po'd car owner, the scenario will be no different from their old 'hood. Then there is no reason for them to take over. The only reason bad people succeed is because nice people let them.

I am confused by this. On one hand you a pro-guns and the other con-guns. Can you elaborate more on this?

 

[cyclic]

Sorry, the post on Texas was wrong. You can buy as many guns as you want, there is no limit. You do have to fill out a multi-firearm purchase form is you buy 2 or more at one time. Thats it, get out your check book. :friday:

 

[Schattenjager]

I am very much pro gun ownership. If that is what you want to do, I believe you should have the unrestricted ability - and availability - to make that decision for yourself.
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In the overly narrow context of personal defense, I am all for the good guys having more firepower than the bad, because gun laws aint gonna stop the thugs from arming themselves.

Laws restricting gun ownership will only apply to the "good citizens" and the "bad citizens" will have nothing to keep them in check - as in the neighborhood scenario.

 

[flyingwil]

Got it... now.:bike_rider:

 

[jh504]

I am very much pro gun ownership. If that is what you want to do, I believe you should have the unrestricted ability - and availability - to make that decision for yourself.
:26_7_2:

In the overly narrow context of personal defense, I am all for the good guys having more firepower than the bad, because gun laws aint gonna stop the thugs from arming themselves.

Laws restricting gun ownership will only apply to the "good citizens" and the "bad citizens" will have nothing to keep them in check - as in the neighborhood scenario.

No disrespect to anyone's views here, but in my opinion Schattenjager's point is the reality of it all. I was in Baton Rouge during Katrina and in N.O. afterwards. The people who kept themselves and there families safe, when the police could not, were the people who already were armed. The criminals will have weapons long after guns are outlawed because, well, they are criminals. And as prooved in N.O. the government (local in that case) can and will let you down. So I will stand by my RIGHT to protect myself and my loved ones. Before Katrina I never carried a firearm in my vehicle, now I never leave home without one in the chamber. As I said before, no disrespect to anyone, the crowd here is a very intelligent and accepting group and I personally welcome diversity.

 

[FourByLand]

I am not anti- "right to bear"... just didn't understand the big deal about not being able to purchase more than one at a time.

I know that in times of chaos such as "Katrina" it becomes pretty hairy and you have to do what you have to for your family... well, even when your neighbors are throwing up gang signs (good luck Wil!)

Anyway thanks for the discussion!

 

[jh504]

I dont think in ordinary life a 30 day wait is really a big deal either, maybe an inconvience at the most. Here in NC we must apply for a permit to purchase a handgun first, then once we get the permit we can go buy the gun. We can apply for I think 5 permits at a time and then go buy 5 guns, but you still have a waiting period for the permit. In Louisiana you can just walk into the gun shop and buy whatever as long as your record is clean.

 

[Bill Beers]

just didn't understand the big deal about not being able to purchase more than one at a time.

It isn't a huge deal, but I think it is just a pain in the rear for some people, especially if you are used to being able to purchase more than one at once.

Just before Christmas, I picked up a Taurus 1911 clone, a .45 Sig 220, and a Savage .17 HMR, all as gifts, all on the same day. Sound's like I wouldn't have been able to do that in California. I guess it that rule would get me to get my shopping done earlier.

-Bill

 

[FourByLand]

Cool, thanks guys!