My Experience with Robert (Bobby) Culpepper and Cascadia Vehicle Tents (CVT)

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mcskibadee1

Adventurer
Couldn't you just issue the refund and then get the trailer when you have time? Seems like the OP has accomodated the dates you have requested multiple time but there always seems to be a reason you can't make it. I know how life can be and especially as a business owner it gets super hectic. Instill some confidence back and issue the refund. My 2cents.
 

TeCKis300

Observer
I'm sorry the OP had a bad experience and it's unfortunate really for both parties.

I will say that when I made my RTT purchase with CVT, Bobby's service was beyond reproach. I had an issue with shipping damage and Bobby went out of his way to drive by San Diego (a huge detour from his plans), to hand deliver a replacement.

I'm sure Bobby fully intended to follow through, but circumstances are such that things get incredibly hard when you're that far away. The incredible growth of his business is probably getting the best of him as well.

Give him a bit more time and I'm sure he'll do you right.
 

grimbo

Explorer
I'm sorry the OP had a bad experience and it's unfortunate really for both parties.

I will say that when I made my RTT purchase with CVT, Bobby's service was beyond reproach. I had an issue with shipping damage and Bobby went out of his way to drive by San Diego (a huge detour from his plans), to hand deliver a replacement.

I'm sure Bobby fully intended to follow through, but circumstances are such that things get incredibly hard when you're that far away. The incredible growth of his business is probably getting the best of him as well.

Give him a bit more time and I'm sure he'll do you right.

A bit more time?

This started in February, I think that is quite enough time to sort it out
 

MANUCHAO

Aventurero
If you look closely at the photo with people in it you'll see the right front of the clamshell is bent upward a bit and doesn't fully close. It has been that way since the day I got it (and I met Mr. Culpepper in Reno to pick it up, so it wasn't shipping damage).

Dude....!!! I went back to see that pic... that tent is all f'ed up and you were ok with that?
How do you not get water damage...????:yikes::yikes::yikes::yikes:
You should leave the tent on top of that POS Chinese trailer and get ALL your $$ back...

Wow....
 

southpier

Expedition Leader
Scott,

don't forget to give Bobby your address so he can pick up the POS tent without excuses. sounds like he has a litany of them just ready for the next victim. if I had to deal with his s&%#, I probably contemplate suicide, too.
 

concretejungle

Adventurer
Sad to read this. I have no dog in the fight but i can say that i see it on the boards every day people wanting a big ticket RTT but not pay big ticket prices. you get what you pay for. I also have heard nothing but good stuff about Bobby, EXCEPT, seems like i always am reading about shipping damage. Maybe Bobby needs to go to Shipping 101 or get a new shipper. Sounds like a lot of lost money from shipping screw ups.
 

enzo

Explorer
Sad to read this. I have no dog in the fight but i can say that i see it on the boards every day people wanting a big ticket RTT but not pay big ticket prices. you get what you pay for. I also have heard nothing but good stuff about Bobby, EXCEPT, seems like i always am reading about shipping damage. Maybe Bobby needs to go to Shipping 101 or get a new shipper. Sounds like a lot of lost money from shipping screw ups.

Nailed it.
 

stingray1300

Explorer
Good evening Scott,

There are 2 sides. One I have never promised anything as I never know what is going to happen. The point being
1. I have never told you I would never take care of this as I do stand behind what I say as I have offered you your money back.
<huge snippage>
Kind regards,
Bobby

I see 2 issues here. 1) "you never promise(d) anything". 2) having told of your desire to rectify the matter(s) leave a gaping chasm regarding "timing". Who's timing should be considered?
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That said, the unnecessary gaps of time in communications. The life-blood of any relationship, whether that be husband/wife, parent/child, employer/employee, consumer/business, is COMMUNICATION.
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Not making a judgment call here, as none of us who were not directly involved know all (or many) of the facts. But the preponderance of the evidence leans us to believe there is merit to the complaint about the lack of APPROPRIATE communication from you. That's all. As a business owner myself, I've been on both sides of similar issues. They are almost never that pleasant to deal with, but that does not negate the necessity to deal with it. procrastination never accomplishes anything positive. Break downs (auto) is something we're all familiar with, and can empathize. But idle time spent waiting for repairs to be made these days allows time for cell phone time.
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I hope these matters can be straightened out to everyone's satisfaction:)
 

paranoid56

Adventurer
hey bobby, if you want to give me a deal on the whole thing let me know :D been looking for something like this, and i also know how to do my own maintenance :D
 

Cascadia-vehicle-tents

Supporting Sponsor
I see 2 issues here. 1) "you never promise(d) anything". 2) having told of your desire to rectify the matter(s) leave a gaping chasm regarding "timing". Who's timing should be considered?
.
That said, the unnecessary gaps of time in communications. The life-blood of any relationship, whether that be husband/wife, parent/child, employer/employee, consumer/business, is COMMUNICATION.
.
Not making a judgment call here, as none of us who were not directly involved know all (or many) of the facts. But the preponderance of the evidence leans us to believe there is merit to the complaint about the lack of APPROPRIATE communication from you. That's all. As a business owner myself, I've been on both sides of similar issues. They are almost never that pleasant to deal with, but that does not negate the necessity to deal with it. procrastination never accomplishes anything positive. Break downs (auto) is something we're all familiar with, and can empathize. But idle time spent waiting for repairs to be made these days allows time for cell phone time.
.
I hope these matters can be straightened out to everyone's satisfaction:)

Good morning Stingray,

I absolutely agree. My communication has sucked. I will not deny or make up excuses. I am willing and have been to give him his money back. (never disputed it.) As I have from the beginning. The hard part was making it all work together.(pick up) I should of informed him but I did not and for that I failed and I am sorry. I do ask of your forgiveness Scott as I am poor at communicating.

Thank you Stingray.

Kind regards,

Bobby
 

Cascadia-vehicle-tents

Supporting Sponsor
hey bobby, if you want to give me a deal on the whole thing let me know :D been looking for something like this, and i also know how to do my own maintenance :D

Will do. Probably best to drop a Dexter axle under it or just replace the shocks and coils and put some upwards travel straps on them. Pm me with your info.

Thank you,

Bobby
 

lindelow

New member
Members involved in this discussion,

What's great about forums is the opportunity they provide for consumers and enthusiasts to provide information about a myriad of topics which ultimately benefit the collective community. Obviously, our passion for travel, overlanding, off-roading, etc. is inherently connected to the consumer products (vehicles, winches, tires, wheels, RTT, Trailers, etc.) that enable us to accomplish our aspirations and enjoy our selected activities.

As everyone knows, researching and comparing products consumes more of our time than actually using them. Although we identify ourselves as adventure seekers and travelers, we're really professional researchers and comparison shoppers, who would thrive as Consumer Report employees!

With this is mind, retailers and business owners, such as Mr. Culpepper, need to understand that customers not only spend hard earned money upon their products, but also invest a tremendous amount of time and effort in researching them. After days, weeks and months of research, when a buyer decides to purchase a product, they have essentially endorsed it (with their time and money) and deemed it capable of fulfilling its specific responsibilities/duties.

When a product fails to fulfill its duties due to poor quality, design, etc. the consumer essentially experiences the emotions (due to their invested time, research, etc.) of rejection and frustration. To compound the issue, when poor customer service is added to the equation of a poor quality product&#8230;anger arises&#8230;understandably.

I have no issue with Mr. Culpepper selling &#8220;cheaper&#8221;, lesser quality products, however, if that is his business decision, than he should understand that expedited, consistent customer service must be an active responsibility of his business plan. Sadly, in my experience, it is not.

To respond to Mr. Culpeper (not to continue an argument, but simply to clarify for forum members), when I arrived in Denver and discovered that my annex/changing room was the wrong size&#8230;I personally called him. I informed him that my annex was for a larger size of tent, and explained that I was on the beginning of a 3 week expedition. Throughout our conversation, Mr. Culpepper was polite and professional and agreed to send me the correct annex.

I continued to explain that I was departing for Moab, Utah in one day and asked Mr. Culpeper to send the package to the Super 8 in Moab. At no point in time did I request that Mr. Culpepper send the package to my personal/home address, due to the fact that I was traveling to Moab. Prior to ending our conversation, I informed Mr. Culpepper that I would text him the Super 8 address. After the conversation, I immediately texted Mr. Culpepper the address and set out to Moab the next day.

As noted, I never received the annex. For scenario sakes, let us imagine that Mr. Culpepper never received my text. If he had not, and had already accepted the responsibility of sending the package, he could have:

1. Called me back
2. Texted me back
3. Emailed me back
4. Got on Google and obtained the Super 8 address
Mr. Culpepper failed to do any of the above. I must assume, due to the products he sells and who (overlanders, travelers) he sells them too, in addition to his attendance at the Overland Expo, that Mr. Culpepper, at some point in time, has visited Moab. Anyone who has been there knows exactly where the Super 8 is located and also has the knowledge that it is the only Super 8 in Moab. A simple phone call, text, or timely e-mail would have reiterated this fact and provided Mr. Culpepper with the address if he truly did not know.

To add to the conversation of other member's experiences with shipping, as noted, when I received my tent, the floor had three punctures. As noted, I accepted the package due to the fact that I was departing in one week and due to the fact that I was going to improve it with diamond plate. I e-mailed Mr. Culpepper and informed him of the damage and also addressed the issue that the very heavy tent was in a simple single walled cardboard box. I even referenced packaging material (cardboard corners, pallets) to Mr. Culpepper and informed him that he could purchase the products from ULine&#8230;a distributer of packaging supplies.

I wanted the next customer to have a better result than I did, and therefore suggested that he palletize his tent shipments. Mr. Culpepper informed me (I forgot whether this was through e-mail or over the phone) that prior to departing his business, the tent was palletized and that the shipping company &#8220;must have removed it&#8221;. I would be interested in knowing if any other members have received a RTT that was placed upon or within a pallet?

Mr. Culpepper&#8230;

My intent is to inform members of my experience, not to disrespect you or prevent you from being a successful business owner. In my opinion, beginning a forum response with &#8220;lol&#8221; and then threatening to obtain e-mails&#8230;reads as disrespectful, childish and unprofessional. I believe a large majority of frustration from your past customers is based upon your ability to communicate on a timely basis and following through on your commitments. I truly hope that you can re-direct your desire to defend yourself and provide excuses and aim your energy into providing better customer service.
 

southpier

Expedition Leader
in- ability to communicate ...

and yet, he is capable when provoked. not a company which I would trade.
 
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