New $100 HIDs

dust devil

Observer
I went out to go get a pair (for now) to start replacing the 4 KC 130w Daylighters. First impressions are that they didn't quite put out as much light. Granted, this was all done in the garage so I'll have a better idea later tonight. Has anyone gone from a KC 130w halogen to these? Just curious as to your thoughts on them.

Been running a pair of 8" KC 130 watt halogens for years. They are a very effective set of lights. While not as bright as a similarly sized quality HID, they are still brighter than your average WalMart off road light.

Whether 130W KC's are brighter than the HID's you have depends on many things. Brightness is measurable if you can settle on a standard, but for most of us, it is simply a subjective matter. If the beam patterns are the same, you should be able to make a reasonable comparison, light for light, in relative brightness by using them side by side. If one is a spread beam and the other a spot, they won't look the same no matter what, and no direct comparison can be made. Spots invariably look "brighter" than floods or drivers.

For example, the 8" KC HiLite 130W halogen comes in two beam patterns, long range and driving. KC rates their lights in "beam candle power" whatever that is (it has something to do with the amount of light measured in the very brightest part of a light pattern, so you can't expect the measure to represent the entire beam spread, only the hottest spot). As long as it is uniformly applied as a standard, however, it at least gives a basis for comparison of relative "brightness" between otherwise similar units.

The 8" halogen KC produces 375,000 bcp at 130 watts. The same unit with the same reflector but with a different lens producing a driving beam produces 170,000 bcp, which would perhaps appear less bright in a side-by-side comparison. Yet, they use the same 130 watt lamp.

The same basic 8" KC unit with an HID (35watt) light source produces 740,000 bcp and 350,000 bcp respectively for long range and driving units. If the standard of measurement also equates to relative brightness, the HID driving unit would make just a smidge less light than the halogen long range, so if compared side by side, one might think the HID is not as "bright" as the halogen. It wouldn't be true because the pattern of light dispersion is distinctly different light to light, but at a glance, the halogen might appear to make more light.

Showing that size matters, as does the lens pattern, the 5" KC HID Flood light produces only 55,000 bcp, using the exact same lamp as the 8" HID long range. Even though the light source is identical, the lens size and pattern reduces effective brightness from a high of 740,000 bcp to only 55,000, and yes the smaller unit does appear "less bright" (until you stare straight into it).

The variables are many. Bottom line is, if the lights you have make light you can use and look good to you, they are doing the job.
 
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angusdevil

Adventurer
Well I picked them up and did a quick test of them and right away I knew I didn't like them. They're a great light with lots of power but the beam pattern was pretty flat and wide. This would be great for everyone in the southwest but I'm moving to Wisconsin in a month and seeing a mile out in front of me is not as important as being able to see everything around me in close proximity. A couple of friends loved them so they are going to go pick up some sets so its good to see my "test purchase" created some good :D
 

lwg

Member
Well I picked them up and did a quick test of them and right away I knew I didn't like them. They're a great light with lots of power but the beam pattern was pretty flat and wide. This would be great for everyone in the southwest but I'm moving to Wisconsin in a month and seeing a mile out in front of me is not as important as being able to see everything around me in close proximity. A couple of friends loved them so they are going to go pick up some sets so its good to see my "test purchase" created some good :D

When I mounted mine I noticed the same thing, they are now angled slightly out on each corner of my ARB bar. People think it's looks funny but it's hugely useful. Up here in the PNW we don't have many instances where you can see far (except for the Eastern parts...) so I would agree with you. However I think they are by far the best bang for the buck I've ever had.
 

java

Expedition Leader
any more updates? they are $134 at my local shucks, still worth it you guys think? its still about the same as a decnt halogen
 

HenryJ

Expedition Leader
any more updates? they are $134 at my local shucks, still worth it you guys think? its still about the same as a decnt halogen
Twice as good as hallogen I think. Still it does give you pause. Ask them at the register how you can save 15%. They may just do it.
 

java

Expedition Leader
Twice as good as hallogen I think. Still it does give you pause. Ask them at the register how you can save 15%. They may just do it.

just ask for 15% off? lol ill give it a try i guess.... still not sure if i want to spend 300$ on lights,
they have the 4" ones for 89$ right now
 

HenryJ

Expedition Leader
I know that can work. They have to give it to you if you ask here. I am not sure how it works now that O'Rileys owns then now.
It is quite a bit for lights. Two of these exceeded six halogens on a friends truck. No filament to burn out or break either. I was hesitant at first. No other way to go for me now. They are BIG light.
I picked up one of the portable handheld lights. That thing is great. Blows away my 130W halogen light.
I guess you can tell I am a believer.
 

angusdevil

Adventurer
As we all know, these are slowly creeping up in price and the coupons haven't been around for a while. They go for $135 now.

A quick search and I found them for $115 each at http://www.sidebysidesports.com/7hidoflica.html

If you get 4 of them, it's only $426 + shipping ($13.55 to WI) which totals roughly 440.... $110 each. That'll save you $100 if you're needing 4.




ALSO




The Harbor Freight HID's http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=95059 are made on the same assembly line as the Kragen/Schucks/Checker. There is a 9" version of that light available else where. I digress, the HF light might be a good alternative for you all as well. The "chrome" part of the light seems kinda cheap but all of the internals and bowl are the same. At $80 a pop, even if they don't last as long as a Hella 4000, Solteks or Vision X.... you could buy them 6 times over before getting close to the price of 1 of the other lights.
 
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Hilldweller

SE Expedition Society
And these from HID-X:
http://www.rdmoffroad.com/HIDX---HID-Offroad-Light.aspx

HIDX%20Ad%20Photo.jpg
 

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