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AZ '83 fj-40

Observer
Hey everyone,

Well lets see, I live in Tucson, AZ and i'm 17, had the cruiser for about 4 or 5 years. Its a white 1983 fj-40. I'm looking to get into expedition driving rather than rock crawling. If anyone has a outline for a swb, some thing for a few days nothing major. Right now its basically stock rather than a bull bar, winch, off road lights, roof rack, and sound system. Soon to ride on an OME 2.5" suspension lift. I have a new computer so no pics yet but ill take some. I've been a member on ih8mud for a while, same name.

Thanks,

Brendan
 

mk4

Observer
AZ '83 fj-40 said:
If anyone has a outline for a swb...

What's a swb?

Anyways, it sounds as though you're relatively new to this. I usually spend 100 days a year on the road and that was with my small 4-door expedition sedan. Now with my 80, I'll be going down the same road as you and building up the LC. With your age, you might want to scrounge up some camping gear from friends and relatives. An old Coleman stove from your Gramps, a lantern from your uncle, and so on.

Save up your money for items you really want or need or for gas.

Fill'r up and hit the road.
 

BigAl

Expedition Leader
At first, spend your money on getting the rig into tiptop mechanical conditon. Belts, hoses, tierod ends, brakes, etc. Once that is done, drive it and see what you think you need. I have a equipped rock crawler that really only use for light duty wheeling and camping.:(
 

Martyn

Supporting Sponsor, Overland Certified OC0018
AZ '83 fj-40 said:
Hey everyone,

Well lets see, I live in Tucson, AZ and i'm 17, had the cruiser for about 4 or 5 years. Its a white 1983 fj-40. I'm looking to get into expedition driving rather than rock crawling. If anyone has a outline for a swb, some thing for a few days nothing major. Right now its basically stock rather than a bull bar, winch, off road lights, roof rack, and sound system. Soon to ride on an OME 2.5" suspension lift. I have a new computer so no pics yet but ill take some. I've been a member on ih8mud for a while, same name.

Thanks,

Brendan

Brendan

Welcome, it's fantastic that you are coming over from the crawling side to the expedition side, good job.

I'd agree with BigAl on making sure everything is mechanically sound before starting off with mods. It's really about dependability.

The FJ40 is a very capable rig with no mods so there is no rush. It would be nice to have a set of 33" tires underneath it so a spring over might be in order. As it's a SWB you have a storage problem even for a short trip, so you may want to think about that.

If the FJ40 is a soft top then security is an issue for documents and cash so some type of lock box would be good.

There are a lot of people on the Portal who live in your area. Keep an eye out for the next "Meet and Greet" and join the "old folks" so you can look their rigs over and steal their ideas. Talk loud and slow as some of them are hard of hearing :)
 

datrupr

Expedition Leader
Welcome to ExPo!!! Brendan. You have a very capable out of the box rig. I agree with making sure you get it mechanically sound forst. I also agree with getting the gear you need to do some overnighting trips. Figure out a storage and packing solution for your gear, and then hit the trails. As you do more trips you will figure out what your needs are, for both yourself and your rig.
 
Don't you know us young folks don't take advice from older folks well???

From one young folk to another, I agree with everyone else. Make sure the vehicle is mechanically sound. Dont just stop at the engine. Check everything. Take a look at everything, or if you have a family member thats a mechanic have them look over EVERYTHING.

I had an 85 4runner that left me stranded out in the middle of nowhere.... (no thanks to me) hour walk to even get cell phone reception.... 2 hours for my brother to get to me with a trailer.... another hour to pull the truck out of the woods and onto the trailer.
The problem was not doing regular maintenance, driving through really deep water and mud, not washing the truck.... you know... what a 16 year old does... So, the alternator was caked with mud. Front/rear differentials full of water.... etc....

I wish I still had that truck.

Oh and welcome to ExPo.
 

Hltoppr

El Gringo Spectacular!
Here's my advice...listen young grasshopper...

I sold my 1976 FJ40 when I was 18....biggest mistake I have ever made in autos....

Don't sell the cruiser (or sell it to me!).

-H-:)
 

Hltoppr

El Gringo Spectacular!
As for expedition advice....Sounds like all you really need is gas and a passport....

-H-
 

AZ '83 fj-40

Observer
Hey guys,

Just thought I should add some pics. Uhm theres a better pic in the taco section under what toyota would you pick. For some reason it wouldnt let me upload it twice.
 

AndrewP

Explorer
At 18 spend your money on girls. Way more fun.http://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/images/smilies/suning.gif
:suning:

An 83 FJ40 is a very rare beast. I think in the USA only 200 or so were imported. It's got the best of all the old school stuff-"modern" 2F, later knuckles/birfs, split transfer case, fully electronic waterproof ignition etc. If it runs well, you're already set as an expedition wheeler. Make sure the steering, brakes and cooling are perfect, then go for it. Remember, once you know this truck, you will be completely up to speed on FJ60s as well. That's a great place to start. I hope you have deep pockets.
 

Grim Reaper

Expedition Leader
Another vote for maintenance being the big one.

Almost every time one of my buddies has been broken down on the trail it was maintenance related ano not prepared to deal with it.
I have helped swap a BUNCH of axle shafts and the folks I wheel with are prepared for that and hour of work and going again.

Its stupid stuff that I have seen take all day to deal with. Stuff like bad rotor buttons that are 5 years old. Rusted out battery trays collapsing and letting the battery short out or go through the radiator. Alternators, Bad battery cables, blown hoses, Water pumps, boiled brakes. Seized wheel bearings etc. All stuff that if it were my truck I would have replaced and wouldn't happen because I do the regular maintenance.

I would start with tune up, new hoses, flush the brake system and as old as your truck is I would concider new brake hoses. Flush the coolant and if you don't know the age of the water pump then replace it.

Most people do not realize Coolant and brake fluid are suppose to be changed every couple of years. Old coolant looses its lubrication properties and its ability to stop corrosion. This can lean to nasty corrosion of the inside of the engine and sized water pumps.

Brake fluid will absorb moisture from the air. As this happens the boiling point lowers and the fluid becomes acidic eating the seals and rusting the hard lines from the inside. 2 years it is time to think of doing a flush.

Lack of routine maintenance:

The time to check the truck is immediately after the trip not just before the next trip. If you drive through deep water you need to give the chassis a full lube and check diffs, knuckles, wheel bearings, crank case, transmission and case for water contamination. Catching it early is always better (and cheaper) then later.

Water sitting in a wheel bearing will cause it to rust and then disintegrate next time on the road. I had a buddy had a front wheel bearing lock up on the hwy from this. He had not drove the truck in a month and did not know he got water in around the locking hub. Headed to the next ride 70 miles from home it seized at 70mph and about flipped his truck. New seals, repack now. At the very least pull the locking hub to see if any water got in within 24 hours of deep water crossing would be a good idea. Most manufacturers recommend complete disassembly of the hub assembly aft water crossings.

As for the gear:

$150-200 at the local department store like Target or K-Mart will get you a cheap tent, sleeping bag, cooler and stove. Have at it!

Best advice after basic gear is make sure somebody knows where you are going and when to expect you back.

If you change your itinerary then you need to make sure that person knows of the changes. If you can't reach them then you stay put till you can. That simple step lets somebody know that if you don't show up where to go looking for you. People changing plans and nobody expecting them or to hear from them is how people end up dying while stranded.

Steve Faucet is a prime example. If he had let somebody know if the exact area he was headed he might be alive today. Instead they are still trying to find his remains and crash site. This guy was super human in most peoples eyes. Set numerous world flight records and because nobody knew his exact travel plans nobody knows where he is. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Fossett

Another is the family that got stranded and the father ended up dying of exposure trying to find help for his wife and kids. Nobody was expecting them so nobody knew they were missing and overdue till they had been stranded for nearly a week. http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/12/06/missing.family/index.html



Welcome to the forum and look forward to the pictures of your truck.
 

cruiseroutfit

Well-known member
Welcome :cool:

There are two ways to do an extended trip in a 40 IMO... towing a trailer and plenty of room, or sans trailer and cramped. I've done 3-4 day trips in my FJ40 without the trailer, we pack much lighter, skip the freezer, and really plan for just the necessities. However, when I bring the trailer, I pack anything & everything... plenty of room.

If a trailer is out of the question for the time being (or ever?), really consider the different storage "techniques" of an FJ40:

1: Rear bumper options: Obviously a spare tire, but consider a cooler/gen. purpose rack too. Additionally you could cary all your recovery gear, hi-lift, etc on the rack or in bags associated with the rack.

2: Front bumper storage: I've never been a huge fan of tool boxes on/in the front bumper, particularly because the limit the ability to mount a winch. But, if a winch isn't in your immediate future, its a great place to store spares and tools.

3. Underhood options: Things are a bit crowded on your 83', but you might find room for spares (ie. belts, hoses, etc.). I've seen alot of unique tool boxes under the hoods of 40's... some are extremely useful.

4. Roof rack: Probably the best "bang for the buck" when it comes to available storage. However one must consider the wide range of issues that accompanies a roof rack ie. increased body roll/mass, difficult task of reaching stored goods, effects on mpg, etc.

5. Rear cargo area: Plenty of neat ways to more efficiently use your rear cargo area. For me I've mounted my shovel, axle, spare driveline and fire extinguisher right to the roll-cage, up off the floor. Some of the neatest setups I've seen include a "suspended" rack (thus giving two levels of storage) we built in Paul May's FJ40 years ago (well Darrell built it, I just fetched tools ;)).

Example of the suspended rack in Pauls red FJ40 (not the best pic I know)
kurtcat2.jpg


There are countless other ways to efficiently build/pack your rigs. Bumpers that double as water/air storage, dash boxes, overhead consoles/storage, etc. Check out this thread: http://expeditionportal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5579
Dave has done an amazing job outfitting his FJ40 for extended travel :cool:
 
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