EricTyrrell
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I know it's a film, but is that paint, or did they plow through a dairy farm?
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I know it's a film, but is that paint, or did they plow through a dairy farm?
soflorovers
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Hey, there's a separate thread for you elsewhere. To address this point, yes... because this Defender has a 400 HP engine. Want smaller wheels? Go for the smaller powertrain. Anything else?
EricTyrrell
Expo God
lol, the IS debate thread? Isn't this the wheel/tire debate thread? That was started by previous poster. Anyways, since when was a Defender sold with a (further) gimped model from the factory? I'm not convinced LR can develop various sophisticated systems, but can't figure out how to make one stop without pushing wheel size.
DieselRanger
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Land Rover is equipping them with Wrangler DuraTracs or Wrangler All Terrain Adventure with Kevlar from the factory.
Yeah, and what's the stopping distance on those full sized trucks? When your $85K fully loaded Redneck Range Rover F350 dually gets cut off in traffic you're going to slam on your brakes just like someone in their $85k RRS or D5 or Defender, both will need a change of pants, but only one will be filing an insurance claim.
Physics is physics bruh.
And if by "shuttling little Thomas-III to the local prep school," you mean "carrying lifesaving supplies and humanitarian aid across Africa, the Middle East, and South Asia," then yeah, they're really, really good at that. Likewise climbing 12,000 foot passes in mud and over babyheads in mountains from the Rockies to the Karakoram. In fact, that kind of driving is what they are made for. You know, Overlanding. The Western US is a walk in the park in comparison.
I see lots of shiny, pinstriped, wrapped, etc Redneck Range Rovers and Mall Crawler Jeeps shuttling Little Dawsons and Madisons to school here in Colorado. Almost none of them have ever seen dirt.
EricTyrrell
Expo God
That's some supercar ****************. Why is it that nearly any other utility 4x4 can use any number of off the shelf tire sizes, but LR always makes it a pain the ass to fit truly off-road worthy tires of one's choice?
You really think that trucks, with payload ratings multiples of any LR, are engineered with inadequate brakes? No, quite the opposite is true, obviously. Again, LR can figure out how to make a vehicle stop without pushing wheel size to useless diameters. Engineering is engineering bruh.
It's difficult to speak to your vague expedition where the support system, story, difficulties, successes, etc are all unknown. What I see, is wheels being swapped for Compomotive, which is an automatic fail. If a Land Rover has to swap wheels to go off-road it's a failure, especially a Discovery. A LR2 could be forgiven, sure, but not a Discovery.
There's a difference between being both commonly used for a status symbol and hard work, and being nearly exclusively used as a status symbol. Sadly LR has fallen to the latter.
Here is the thread where these comments should be directedz;
EricTyrrell
Expo God
Here is the thread where these comments should be directedz;
Yes, let's not discuss the elephant in the room. Good luck with tires and the thousand threads that will follow.
naks
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First off-road drive in the 2020 LR Defender: https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/fahrbericht/erster-check-mitfahrt-land-rover-defender-neu-2020/
EricTyrrell
Expo God
Racing down a manicured dirt road is not off-roading.
naks
Well-known member
Yeah, but if you did that in the previous Defender, you'd have been belly-up in no time at all.
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Yeah, but if you did that in the previous Defender, you'd have been belly-up in no time at all.
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If that's the definition of the new Luxury Defender, Houston we have a problem. Long gone is the Tread Lightly theme. New theme? "Hey, we can drift through corners now at break neck speed, who cares about the person around the corner on a forest service road!
EricTyrrell
Expo God
Yeah, but if you did that in the previous Defender, you'd have been belly-up in no time at all.
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That doesn't make it the "first off-roading drive". There are dozens of vehicles that can imitate Ken Block. It's nothing unique or needed in a Defender. There are also dozen other vehicles that would be belly-up too, and they should be. It's as ridiculous as Ford trying to turn the Mustang into a rock-crawler.