New Defender News
- Thread starter blackangie
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Sjoe, jealousy really does make some people nasty
And labelling Kingsley Holgate as a poseur, what an ignorant comment - maybe actually look up who is he and what he does?
You did, by saying that they are fragile - nothing could be further from the truth. They are designed to save the occupants, thats Engineering 101.
Again, maybe read up on things before posting ignorant comments.
Sometimes fragile might benefit passengers, but not always and I never referred to safety. You are smart enough to see that.
Yawn...arrogance really does make people nasty to, I said nothing about you, yet you get "all personal".
;-)
Anyone can "overland" 80k miles with unlimited support, unlimited time and unlimited money... sorry, we disagree.
DieselRanger
Well-known member
I know who he is. His humanitarian work is admirable, but any yahoo can do "expeditions" with his resources. Celebrity humanitarians just don't impress me much.
DieselRanger
Well-known member
I can happily file his opinions in the section called “trash”.
Kingsley has made it into Norway.
Rather curiously, they have P400s x2 in white and a D300 in green. The P400s are on 18s, 275/79/18 Cooper ST max.
Not sure for the D300, which is a shame as it’s the D300 that I’ll buy and 18s would be nice to have.
Kingsley has made it into Norway.
Rather curiously, they have P400s x2 in white and a D300 in green. The P400s are on 18s, 275/79/18 Cooper ST max.
Not sure for the D300, which is a shame as it’s the D300 that I’ll buy and 18s would be nice to have.
Somewhat correct.
My "overland" definition does not does not include multiple support vehicles and tens or even hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of support.
My "overland" is solo vehicle, into areas perhaps a hundred miles (max) from any form of support. I had best be prepared for any electronic or mechanical failure and also be prepared to walk to support. I generally prepare for at least a 40 mile walk.
I think this difference is night and day. With reports of failures on the "new Defender". I think that I will continue to place my trust in an old dependable D1. I have winched my first D1 almost a mile, managed to get it running, pulled part out of the diff, replaced axles, cvs, some wires and tires. Somehow I manage to get out without walking (knock on wood). I know my vehicle's condition and problems and it is not susceptible to random failure and a 2 month wait on parts. FFS I could probably have an engine in a few days.
Is the D90 an overland vehicle in the sense that it can do hundreds of miles of rather trivial dirt roads? Sure. Go for it, it dies? Just get a tow. Can it do anything that happens to be in its way? Definitely not as much as other and perhaps older vehicles.
Is the D90 a vehicle that is worthy of carrying you over skree, talus, boulders, miles of washboard into the most remote areas with the ability to be fixed in the field? IMO not so much.
Defenders have fragile body, fragile unibody, fragile electronics. Anyone that really gets out there either needs the support or spares. IMO, the "expedition" funded by LR and other projects by "celebrities" allows for the extra expense of these necessities for the safety of humans. From my perspective, these people are thusly not really prepared for "overland" expeditions. They are on a tour.
I have been on these tours. With skilled "overland" trainers, other Land Rover enthusiasts, etc. It is night and day between a big tour, LR Rally, etc. VS. being out solo. Being out solo, on your own and responsible for only you is what "overland" means. I don't feel like the "new Defender" has proven itself worthy of this. I don't believe the people I have commented on are prepared for the worst and certainly not solo. I don't believe my version of "overland" is the same as everyone else's. Afterall many overland in Sprinters and Subaru, enough said, yeah?
YMMV. IMO.
Funny how people just like to insult others when they disagree, just shows ExPo is no different than any social media platform.
Keyboard jockeys just like to bash and insult vs have any type of real interaction. I trust y'all don't treat each other like this face to face.
I wonder what they had to do for 275/70R18?
I used to run 255/85R16, slightly larger and it took work on a D1.
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I dismiss a lot of celebrities and tv personalities once it is clear that is what they areor have become. this expedition is a land rover advert.
just because you are fans doesn't mean everyone has to share your opinion. look back at your comments and other comments, it's you and others making person insults not me. so who then is bashing and insulting? ;-)
Sheesh.
just because you are fans doesn't mean everyone has to share your opinion. look back at your comments and other comments, it's you and others making person insults not me. so who then is bashing and insulting? ;-)
Sheesh.
catmann
Active member
A 2023 Trek Edition and a Grasmere Green 75th Anniversay Edition are coming for those looking for something "different":
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/n...85995-defender
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/n...85995-defender
Todd n Natalie
OverCamper
I like the green. But the green wheels are a little much.A 2023 Trek Edition and a Grasmere Green 75th Anniversay Edition are coming for those looking for something "different":
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/n...85995-defender
You must have been in mahwah. I most likely saw you. I’m one of the jlr instructors in the blue shirts. You enjoy the run?A 2023 Trek Edition and a Grasmere Green 75th Anniversay Edition are coming for those looking for something "different":
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/n...85995-defender