@Doron @EricTyrrell @JeepColorado get a first hand report from the guy who actually talked to the video producer on what we predicted before we get the information from the guy who was actually there; and they are still talking about what they think they see in the video. Which was wrong right out of the gate.
Read the posts in detail from the time you posted it
@Doron pay particular attention to the posts of the many who know what they see in the video of inexperience, tire pressure, poor to know TC management, unknown locker configuration, ignoring spotters, and the 99% of the things the driver did wrong. YOU my friend actually claimed that the driver was experienced; by watching that video it clearly shows you are inexperienced yourself and you also made a claim that was proven false by the actual video producer; the driver has NEVER been off-road and it shows through his skills and your observations of perceived skills.
Clearly the driver is new to off-roading, and it also doesn't seem like that 110 has the rear e-diff. He also clearly doesn't know how to get the TC to work properly.
But even without the rear e-diff, it shouldn't have gotten stuck so much.
I would have walked that hill in my D4 and RRS
Agreed...first post debunking the nature of the video
The driver is no novice to off road or LR.
@Doron confirming he knows the driver is experienced. Through
@Doron observation of the video, he sees skill and precision skills limited by the inability of vehicle only.
Or a completely biased opinion on unbased assumptions..?
Why can’t you accept that this truck is what it is?
A well equipped SUV, but not a defender?
No need to answer, I got it already that for some, no matter what, it’s not the dancer’s fault, but a broken floor.
Reconfirming the video at face value; see Situational Awareness definition below.
This post reminds me of Baghdad Bob who did that press conference for the Iraqi Army with the building shaking all around him and you could hear the bombs in the background, but yet he was saying that the US was no where close to them......
Typical first reporting bias; assumptions made without clear analytic decision or thought process. Please see Situational Awareness definition below. Another Troll taking the video at face value and not in anyway able to point out improper off-road processes of the video but sees failure, praises it, and runs full force into the fire of those who easily pick it apart before confirmation from the video's poster; which confirms our knowledge and puts you back on the bench with the rest of the novice keyboard warriors.
I disagree- I see the TC
trying to do it's thing- it's just not doing it very well.
That's the beauty of lockers...there's nothing to figure out except where to park at the top of the hill.
Again, someone who needs a locker to go anywhere and then claims his experience is what got him there. As pointed out on numerous occasions; this is a prime example of what NOT do to in every sense and how NOT to use a TC system, LOCKER or open diff. Watch the Wrangler Sport video and hit that dude up for some free lessons when able.
I like things that simply work- which this Defender clearly isn't doing. I've used TC many times- it can be good, but it clearly has real faults- very well demonstrated by this Defender trying to climb this hill.
The TC has faults; or you do not know how to appropriately use it to your advantage and it further hinders your inability in complex environments? Not one person on this thread comparing the Defender to Jeeps as the same type of vehicle except the Trolls. See above for a detailed list.
Blaming the driver?..
Wasn’t the whole point of this over complex systems to extract the driver’s mistakes with a “smart” TC that combine TC and a true locker?
You can also blame the soil/rock formation which are different from Britain, ohh and don’t forget the air, yes.
The air density is also different and affect the tries..
We've been over this one in great detail but wanted to remind you as you run further into the fire cuz the proof of the videos contents actually start coming into play on the next post ?; a PERSON IN THE VIDEO CONFIRMING other DEFENDERS and EXPERIENCED DRIVERS had no problems going up the hill.
In one of the few English comments on the video, the person who posted it acknowledges that two other drivers had no problems getting the new Defender up the obstacle, so yeah blaming the driver seems entirely appropriate.
My armchair theory is that the Defender is set to sand mode instead of rock crawl or even mud/ruts. The wild wheel spin does not match my brief experience driving with wheels off the ground, and looks a lot more like a system desperately trying to keep wheels spinning in soft stuff, while the driver keeps taking away the power.
? ohhhhhhh, evidence.....I mean people actually saying it that were there. Another experienced member who sees improper control and something; we don't know what yet; doesn't line up as the vehicle/driver are clearly not in sync.
Yes,
But it’s not the case here.
It’s locked and the settings are right, at least this is what stated.
Taken at face value and runs into the fire with it as he can't possibly see any other possible indicators outside of negative content. See Situational Awareness definition.
Well, at least it drives nice. I see the JLR apologists are out in force. Carry on boys.
Heeeeeee'ssssssss BAAAAAACCCCCKKKKKK! Still can't produce one photo of a vehicle he drives or any proof of off-road knowledge or experience. Trolls in and blindly supports any negative reporting of the D110; you can't report on the video because either you do not know what you are seeing or you do know and see the video is negative bias with an novice driver in complx terrain.
Gents, I asked the Youtube uploader to translate the clip, and he was kind enough to do so.
This photo showing the locked diffs is from the first 110 that went up the hill, with no drama. Another new Defender also got up the hill without drama (according to the uploader).
I commented on the video, and the uploader agrees, that the driver of the white 110 has never been off-road (confirmed by the driver himself in the video).
The 90 has a suspension lift and a rear locker (the narrator says this), wouldn't you agree that this is a far cry from a fair comparison?
Now that the clip has been translated, I would suggest that everyone watches it again to understand what was going on.
Ohhhhhh, what an interesting chain of events; the Trolls still can't handle the truth.
this is incorrect, as has been pointed out several times in this thread. Only one new Defender, the one driven by the inexperienced driver, had any issues. The others made it past the same obstacle no problem. You have repeatedly ignored this fact because it does not fit your narrative.
there’s nothing “apologist” about living in reality. Would a Wrangler Rubicon Have made it up the same obstacle even easier? Yeah probably. That doesn’t change that this driver has no idea what he is doing.
See above!
