New Garmin Colorado

Crazyfish

New member
Their line is way too big, I can't even keep them all straight in one narrow field. Funny thing about the doc's it says it's compatible with OSX but nothing about actually using Mac software. I've downloaded ALL of the programs for Mac's. You think they could combine a few of them.
 

flywgn

Explorer
Just went down to Sportsmans' Warehouse in Twin today and played with the 400t. Liked it, bought it.

It replaces my 60cs. Yep, 'cs'. No card in it. I've had it for about 8 years. It, too, ate batteries fast until I read in the User's Manual (funny how these little booklets have a way of sliding to the background) how to toggle off certain functions that soak up the current. While it was in the vehicle, I used a 12V cable for power.

Ordered a 12V cable for the 400t just a few minutes ago.

Should be able to play with the unit in Baja in a few days.

Allen R
 

Schattenjager

Expedition Leader
I will be interested in reading what you think of the 400t. I sold my 60 to an ExPo'er, so I am stuck with the 400, but it is growing on me. Much like a fungus.
 
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Schattenjager

Expedition Leader
Dumped the 400t

I wont enumerate all the issues I had with the 400t, but suffice it to say that I went against my principals, took it back to REI, got a proven winner in ANOTHER 60CSx and pocketed the $322.00 price difference at the same time.

I had it for sale here on ExPo to gauge interest but came to the conclusion that I did not want to pass on a problem, so I used REI's excellent return policy and ditched it.

While it has INCREDIBLE accuracy and wondrous screen, the interface simply sucks - especially for one handed operation. The other issues I had were random shut downs. With the long sat. acquisition times this became a problem in the woods. Sometimes it would offer a 'low battery' warning despite the fact I had just loaded freshly charged batteries in it. It would continue to run, so the warning was a glitch.

The website said the Colorado series is in constant development and would have new updates every few weeks. There has been only one since January along side a BETA that actually did more harm than good.

Then there is the City Navigator problem. I have effectively thrown the $120 away since it only comes with ONE license. Returning the 400t consumed that one and I am staring at a program I payed for and cannot use because Garmin cannot negotiate a better contract with NT for use of their maps. Feeling my frustration?

The real clincher was my call to Garmin to inquire about the future of this unit. The Garmin rep gave me this long winded story about it being so far ahead of the crowd that I should expect some growing pains. In a $600 unit??? PLEASE! He could have cared less about my problems and was not interested in easing my concerns. I was unusually polite too...:wavey:

I do not know what has happened to Garmin, but they are slipping in many peoples eyes. I fly and many of my mentors have trusted Garmin equipment for a long time. But their new direction and piss poor customer service has cemented the fact that the 60CSx is the last Garmin thing I will own until they demonstrate a commitment to EARNING my dollars again, rather than patting the pin heads in R&D on the back for poor ideas. Others I know are saying the same thing. Telling me that the 400t is a GREAT unit does not make it so.:littlefriend:

I have become lazy and trust the GPS pretty much exclusively for outback navigation. I would never feel comfortable with a Colorado 400t for anything more than GeoCashing in a large group of other GPS's.:088:
 
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opie

Explorer
Schattenjager said:
I wont enumerate all the issues I had with the 400t, but suffice it to say that I went against my principals, took it back to REI, got a proven winner in ANOTHER 60CSx and pocketed the $322.00 price difference at the same time.

I had it for sale here on ExPo to gauge interest but came to the conclusion that I did not want to pass on a problem, so I used REI's excellent return policy and ditched it.

While it has INCREDIBLE accuracy and wondrous screen, the interface simply sucks - especially for one handed operation. The other issues I had were random shut downs. With the long sat. acquisition times this became a problem in the woods. Sometimes it would offer a 'low battery' warning despite the fact I had just loaded freshly charged batteries in it. It would continue to run, so the warning was a glitch.

The website said the Colorado series is in constant development and would have new updates every few weeks. There has been only one since January along side a BETA that actually did more harm than good.

Then there is the City Navigator problem. I have effectively thrown the $120 away since it only comes with ONE license. Returning the 400t consumed that one and I am staring at a program I payed for and cannot use because Garmin cannot negotiate a better contract with NT for use of their maps. Feeling my frustration?

The real clincher was my call to Garmin to inquire about the future of this unit. The Garmin rep gave me this long winded story about it being so far ahead of the crowd that I should expect some growing pains. In a $600 unit??? PLEASE! He could have cared less about my problems and was not interested in easing my concerns. I was unusually polite too...:wavey:

I do not know what has happened to Garmin, but they are slipping in many peoples eyes. I am a pilot and have trusted Garmin equipment for a long time. But their new direction and piss poor customer service has cemented the fact that the 60CSx is the last Garmin thing I will own until they demonstrate a commitment to EARNING my dollars again, rather than patting the pin heads in R&D on the back for poor ideas. Others I know are saying the same thing. Telling me that the 400t is a GREAT unit does not make it so.:littlefriend:

I have become lazy and trust the GPS pretty much exclusively for outback navigation. I would never feel comfortable with a Colorado 400t for anything more than GeoCashing in a large group of other GPS's.:088:

Ditto.

I ditched my 60csx for a Colorado 300. The resolution was nice, but needed to use the backlight even during the day due to poor color contrast.

Its got almost an elementary interface...I didnt dislike it, but I like the 60 series better. I too, was pissed to have just spent $100 on mapsource only to have to buy it again when I purchased another 60csx.

Oh well...

I also dont get why Garmin is releasing BETA updates....youd think Garmin would have something out they will stand behind.
 

jerdog53

Explorer
This is interesting I was trying to decide upon the 60csx or the 400T so I will following this closely and hope so other offer up opinons with the 400T
 

opie

Explorer
jerdog53 said:
This is interesting I was trying to decide upon the 60csx or the 400T so I will following this closely and hope so other offer up opinons with the 400T

If you arent already used to the 60 series, you probably wont be dissapointed with the Colorado series. Its is a nice unit, but since Ive had a 60 series for some years prior, I was a bit dissapointed in it.
 

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