New Gen Tundra front recovery points

Grassland

Well-known member
I'd never thought I'd see the day a new Tundra is cheaper than domestic trucks I want to buy equipped a certain way, but the day is here.
(Not that I can find any of these trucks in physical form)
If I'm willing to eat the small has tank, the only thing I'm missing is front tow hooks from my list of must haves.
I do not know my Toyota's well. One buddy has a 2020 Tacoma he's cramming 285/75R17s on (I couldn't bring myself to trim metal on a truck that new and nice)

Looking at the SR5 TRD off road double cab, (might be Canada only trim)
Want 6.5' bed, rear locker, 4x4, power windows, locks, cruise control, brake control, tow package, power mirrors.
The bonus with Toyota is this trim has heated seats and steering wheel as well. 58k CAD
I can build on paper and F150 for about the same, with less features. Equivalent build out but still missing heated steering wheel is over 65k CAD and that's with the 2.7 not the 3.5

Gotta be some way to have front tow hooks via aftermarket or Toyota by now
 

Winterpeg

Active member

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irish44j

Well-known member
wow, that's pretty amazing that they don't come with factory tow hooks up front. I figured that was a standard pickup truck/SUV thing......
 

Todd780

OverCamper
I'd never thought I'd see the day a new Tundra is cheaper than domestic trucks I want to buy equipped a certain way, but the day is here.
(Not that I can find any of these trucks in physical form)
If I'm willing to eat the small has tank, the only thing I'm missing is front tow hooks from my list of must haves.
I do not know my Toyota's well. One buddy has a 2020 Tacoma he's cramming 285/75R17s on (I couldn't bring myself to trim metal on a truck that new and nice)

Looking at the SR5 TRD off road double cab, (might be Canada only trim)
Want 6.5' bed, rear locker, 4x4, power windows, locks, cruise control, brake control, tow package, power mirrors.
The bonus with Toyota is this trim has heated seats and steering wheel as well. 58k CAD
I can build on paper and F150 for about the same, with less features. Equivalent build out but still missing heated steering wheel is over 65k CAD and that's with the 2.7 not the 3.5

Gotta be some way to have front tow hooks via aftermarket or Toyota by now
Not sure if you are finacing or not. But it used to be the cheaper Toyota was actually more expensive due to the poor rates.
That was the case when I was looking back at the start of 2022.

As of today, TRD Off road vs FX4 XLT 302a w/2.7
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Changing the F150 to a 3.5 is a $3,500 option which made the payment $447. (You also get 3:55's with a lockjing diff with the Ford) Toyota is 3:31 with no optional axle ratio.
 
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Todd780

OverCamper

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Looks like you'd have to be able to crawl under the truck to access those.

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GATORB8

Member
Not sure if you are finacing or not. But it used to be the cheaper Toyota was actually more expensive due to the poor rates.
That was the case when I was looking back at the start of 2022.
Interesting to hear the difference up north.

In the states, you can easily get at least several percent off domestic invoice pricing by using a volume dealer for an order. I never found Toyota dealerships to do that. If you were willing to lease, there were some third party banks with extremely high (80%+) residual values that made leasing Tundra's a steal even without any discounting.

Not sure if they cross the border, but Affiliate (1% under invoice) pricing is accessible for anyone here for Stellantis through a tread lightly donation and Ford through joining the Mustang Club.
 

Todd780

OverCamper
Interesting to hear the difference up north.

In the states, you can easily get at least several percent off domestic invoice pricing by using a volume dealer for an order. I never found Toyota dealerships to do that. If you were willing to lease, there were some third party banks with extremely high (80%+) residual values that made leasing Tundra's a steal even without any discounting.

Not sure if they cross the border, but Affiliate (1% under invoice) pricing is accessible for anyone here for Stellantis through a tread lightly donation and Ford through joining the Mustang Club.
I updated my comment above with screenshots. As an aside, when I was shopping, I was advised by the Toyota Sales manager when I was looked at Tundras that bank rates were better than Toyota's at the time. I think Toyotas rate on the Tundra then was 4.99%?
 

Metcalf

Expedition Leader

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These are only mounting to the sway bar mounting bolts? I would be a bit leery. I'd bridle them for sure with a truck that size.
 

DaveNay

Adventurer
Not sure if you are finacing or not. But it used to be the cheaper Toyota was actually more expensive due to the poor rates.
That was the case when I was looking back at the start of 2022.

As of today, TRD Off road vs FX4 XLT 302a w/2.7
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Changing the F150 to a 3.5 is a $3,500 option which made the payment $447. (You also get 3:55's with a lockjing diff with the Ford) Toyota is 3:31 with no optional axle ratio.
$866 per month for six years?!?!

As if I needed reassurance about driving 20 year old vehicles.
 

Grassland

Well-known member
Our currency is so weak vs the USD it's not worth the hassle of buying from USA
As well I live in the middle of Canada and our city is the only major metropolitan area in quite some ways so i'd likely be going at least two provinces west to buy and get any sort of deal, or go a couple days drive east (Ontario is huge)
It's killing me to think about 4-5 years of truck payments again.
We've paid off $142k (pre taxes) in vehicles since 2014 (wife's Elantra GT, my F150, my Transit 250, wife's Grand Cherokee) adding a single vehicle that's 40% of that thanks to insane inflation makes my head spin.
I doubt the Tundra will come down in price at the end of this calendar year but I'm hoping Ford's do.
 

Buddha.

Finally in expo white.
I was building xlt gas superduty and f150 and the payment was 900+ for 5-6 years.

At work the big $100k travel trailers get the payments stretched out for 20 years!
 

GATORB8

Member
Yep. Seems to be the case for most mid level trucks nowadays regardless of make or model.
We'll see how the market changes, but, even worse than the cost of new trucks, is the high resale value of lightly used ones. When there's only a few grand difference between new and a couple years old, it's hard to justify not picking up the new one.
 

Todd780

OverCamper
We'll see how the market changes, but, even worse than the cost of new trucks, is the high resale value of lightly used ones. When there's only a few grand difference between new and a couple years old, it's hard to justify not picking up the new one.
Yep. That's the conclusion I came to when I ended up looking at new Tundras and F150's.
Last F150 I bought 6 years ago was just about 2 years old when I got it and had 24,000 miles. Buuuut, It was 20K cheaper than a new one. Well worth it to me to go used.
That was not the case this time round. I did get a hell of a trade in value on that 2015 F150 though.
 

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