Nissan Frontier Truck Bed Off-Road Trailer - The "Frontrailer"

Nd4SpdSe

Adventurer, eh?
Got a temporary fix on the awning done as well. If you followed the story of the trip, the awning broke 2 knuckles in some wind gusts during the setup at Meat Cove, NS. I wasn't sure what would work on mine, and to be honest, I thought they were all the same, so I ordered in a set of Rhino Rack Awning knuckles since I could get them in 3 days, as opposed to the Foxwings in 3 weeks, which actually gave me a few extra uses of the awning this year. It's a temporary fix that works, and is 100% reversible. Next year I'll get some proper replacements for spring. Darche out of Australia makes a "SuperFlex Hinge"
http://darche.com.au/product/awningsuper-flex-hinge/
Would be a perfect fix, and the price is good (about 1:1 to the Canadian Dollar), but they want $80 to ship 6 of them....

So here's my fix using the Rhino Rack knuckles. They're a bit wider, so a new bracket had to me made. It definitely feels and looks beefier, but has a hard time fitting inside the cover. I'm not sure also how this affects the sides.

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I also got my forward stabalizer legs installed. Some tweaking is needed and have yet to properly test them, but it will be nice to retire the jack stands...they do take up a fair amount of space.

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And last week I also got my knock off Max Coupler / TSC Coupler. We got a group by done by a few of us here in Quebec, and it should work out well. Just too bad it's too late in the season, but not at all bad for C$200! And it should be MUCH stronger, and it's solid with no bushings. Just an FYI, for us Canadians, to get one direct imported from the USA would cost C$450 before any duties. We're currently working on the piece to be able to attack it to the trailer.

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Nd4SpdSe

Adventurer, eh?
Did a bit of work, prepping for one final use of the year. Since we've been working on a haunted house, my projects have been put to the side for the moment. It's my girlfriend's friend's project, in which my girlfriend if highly involved, and thus, so I am. We're building a 18x18ft house for my girlfriend's scene, and with that, I need to make a dark false sky, and make it snow to go with her character of Krampus... anyway, with that, it's a lot of time, so we're planning on taking the trailer there to be able to get some early starts and late finishes on the weekend to get some good progress done. With that, I figured I'd make those tweaks I needed to get my stabilizer legs working and test them out on this should-be final use for the year. They're calling for 1*C overnight Saturday, so we'll probably run an extension and use an electric heater to keep us comfortable. This also makes me want to prioritize adding a the heating element to the trailer next year. The more progress gets on the trailer, the more convenient it is to have and use, and extending it's season of use wouldn't at all be a bad thing

The legs need more holes drilled for adjustability, but it'll do for now. It feels really solid up front and had greatly reduced the rocking from the suspension, and encourages me on the design to make some for the rear.

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emtmark

Austere Medical Provider
I've already started
Looking for a
Donor frontier for my xterra. Really like the look


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Nd4SpdSe

Adventurer, eh?
it's not too much of a big deal, it's at least an easy fix. If it was the canvas, then I would of been pissed.

Did some urban camping over the Canadian Thanksgiving long weekend, and probably the last actual use of the season and stayed at a friends place to be able to get some good progress on their haunted house over the weekend. Friday night was a comfortable 12°C, Saturday night was a cool 7° but still very comfortable with some extra blankets and closed up the windows a bit more. Sunday night dropped to 1°, so we used the extension to run a small ceramic heater. It was on the minimum setting and was just perfect, but even better was the total lack of any condensation. It makes me really anxious to put in a heater as the next big mod to the trailer/camping setup since it'll truly extended the seasonal use, and even get some winter camping in. Ya, we could get a warm sleeping bag, but it's not fun to get out of and get dressed, and I do enough of that with the army, I don't need to reproduce or experience that any more then I have to.

And also, the front stabilizer legs worked like a charm, especially to only have them up front for the moment. I'm looking forward to making and having them in the rear!
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Airmapper

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I've been stalking this thread a while, trailer looks great and I like the matched look it all has and how you've added features. Very nice setup.

I want a trailer to offload all my camping setup to and keep coming back to this thread toying with the idea in my mind of a 2nd Generation "Frontrailer" to match my 2nd Gen Xterra. With the Frontier/Xterra being siblings all the shared styling and even common axle hardware makes it near perfect.

However I don't think I can come up with the Frontier back end as easily as you did. It will live as an idea in my head, who knows maybe one day it will come to life.
 

Nd4SpdSe

Adventurer, eh?
Wow, thanks. I don't get much interaction in my thread, but there's a lot of views...maybe most are just shy or not sure what to say, but I keep on posting up info for those who are curious or interested.

To be honest, it was far from quick. The idea was floating in my head for a good 6-7 years prior, and I did spend a good several months trying to find a truck to work with, most were too old, rusted out and expensive for the year and condition, and the good ones were still asking like $6-$10'0000CAD for them. I lucked out to be honest and it was a friend that sold me his...which is ironic cause his truck is what I based my idea off of! Just gotta look, but you should have more options with the 2nd gen Frontier being sold for longer and in much higher quantities. Just gotta keep looking and be ready when you find the perfect one.

I will admit I do love having a trailer. How many times we've just packed food and clothes and just left in a short notice or decision, just quick pack, pin the trailer and go. Especially too since we can be very busy, where the only time we have to get ready is the day of. Like this past weekend, it was a fairly last minute idea to camp at her friends place, but no problem.

And while I'm at it I dropped the trailer off at the fabricator who made my Off-Road Coupler to get a adapter made to mate it to the trailer. That should be done in the next day or two. I also gave him my extra supercharger and my Laminova cores too see about his machinist making me an intercooler
 

Nd4SpdSe

Adventurer, eh?
Time for a bit of an update, but I've been extremely busy working on, then dismantling, a haunted house. That was over a month of a half of my time consumed embarking on my girlfriend's and her friend's project, so now it's time that I can get back into my stuff. On Friday I pinned up the trailer for the last time to bring her to get stored for the winter. This year, rather than be outside in the cold, she'll be inside another garage that the mother-in-law has access too, so I don't need to remove the RTT and awning and unpack the trailer, and even better, it's got power, so I hooked up the charger and the batteries will stay topped up all winter.

On Friday I pinned up the trailer for the last time to bring her to get stored for the winter
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Along the way, I figured it was time to get it weighed, to stopped at a scale station that was en route.

Truck with trailer:
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Which calculates the trailer at 1100kg, or 2560lbs

And my trailer now in hibernation mode
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Just a side note on some work on the truck for those that may be curious, that night I got my 24" lightbar installed and also I got the 3rd brake light wire up on my fold down tire carrier
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It actually made me sad to see her put away. It at this point, despite be putting the Rx-8 away the week before, that was when it finally clicked in that the summer is done and winter is on it's way. It was a great year for the trailer. To be honest, last year, her first year, I had my doubts a bit about it. It felt a bit of a novelty, as opposed as the easy-to-deploy and go-anywhere trailer, but realistically, she was barely rolling in that (camping) configuration before I was send out of province for the summer with a short 2 week notice, but it worked.

This year, while I didn't get everything that I had planned done, she made much progress, and totally changed my experience with it, and we used it way more then we had planned. We've got more (local) friends that are getting more and more info camping which is great, but having a dedicated vehicle for camping was itself almost priceless. We had a few more spontaneous weekend trips with friends, and where we had no time to prep for it during the week, but was awesome just to have something ready to go, we just needed to pack clothes and food and could hit the road in under an hour. We used it 3 times in non-camping situations, where 2 where for parties where accommodations were limited to spend the night, and the other we used it for ALL the (Canadian) Thanksgiving weekend (Fri-Mon) to pump out work on the haunted house since they couldn't easily accommodate us either.

As I got some of the bugs worked out, the ease of setup got much easier. Leaned some faults to resolve in high winds, but it's progress. We really saw the advantage to the RTT, where the girlfriends sister and boyfriend were sleeping in a regular tent, with a tuque and a ceramic heater, while we were in the RTT running the 12v fan to cool us down. The added integrated LED lights inside the tent and around the awning were awesome to have, and the awning totally changed the comfort in bad weather, especially with the sides, and I wasn't expecting the shower to be as convenient to have as it ended up being. For our trip out east, the ease of setup was awesome, especially in bad weather and the dark, and with (sadly) all the rain we encountered, having a quick dry spot to sleep, but also very comfortable, takes way much of the stress of such a trip, and it also helps to wake well rested.

The front rack, although planned as temporary, was very convenient to bring wood, which was handy on more than one occasion, but also tears me on what I want to do for the front section of the trailer. With that, there's also the issue of the spare tire, when it gets moved to the back of the trailer, causes an instability; it's just to much weight too far behind the axle at the moment, which also causes confusion on what to do with it. I do look forward to making and installing rear stabilizer legs and testing that, as well as testing the off-road coupler. Hopefully it'll go through some trails next year at least once (CNTC: Adventure Weekend), but I'll need to get the brakes sorted out for and before that.

Sadly, this is the part of the year where use and work on the trailer is almost non-existent, but I will be accumulating parts for it over the winter. I want to give the differential charging system a go in spring, and I also want to get some heat in there to really extend the seasonal use of the trailer, and maybe get some camping in much earlier in 2017. I could work on making the rear stabilizer legs over the winter easily, but first I want to finish my roof basket for the Xterra, but also work at getting a production version of my hitch carrier started.

And finally, although this is far from a goodbye (I will be visiting regularly for sure, just lacking content for updates, but questions and comments are always welcome), I do want to say thank you to everyone interested and had enjoyed my project. I wasn't expecting such a positive reception to be honest, but I'm glad people are enjoying it, and even have been inspired by it. And for those who are lurking and following from the shadows, don't worry about it, don't need to write anything if you don't need or want to ;) Remember, I'm just a computer geek that likes cars and has bought a MIG to a welder; don't let others discourage you to do what you want to do.
 
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emtmark

Austere Medical Provider
I'm stalking the **** out of this thread an am actively searching for a black frontier to make it happen I think it looks awesome


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Nd4SpdSe

Adventurer, eh?
And Happy 2017 To All! And a few updates to be had. Some truck, some life, some car and some trailer, but all automotive related ;)
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While it is trailer related in a sence, for the haunted house that I work on, we had decided to enter the local Christmas parade using the theme that we (my girlfriend and I) had used which fits both events, and it would be Krampus, so we made up a Krampus float, my girlfriend reprising her role as the punisher of bad kids, and me towing the float, and powering half of it off the truck and the 1500w inverter, the other half being powered by a 1000w generator.
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The Xterra towed it wonderfully. I put it in 4-Low and she pulled herself on idle, but the alternator had a hard time keeping up at such low revs/speeds for the amount of power they were pulling. I wanted them to go LED, but they went for all incandescent bulbs for the "look" and cause they were free. We off-loaded some off the inverter to the generator, but even that was running full-out. I think we did look awesome and the people loved us, but we didn't place in the top 3 for the prizes and got beat even by Care Bears....oh well...twas fun anyway! It was great fun and exposure, and we want to do it again next year, make us known as THE Krampus float for that parade!
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On a more serious note, only a few days before heading home to Ontario for the holidays, I see on Facebook shared by a few people, about a blue Civic pushed into a store by a drunk driver. I look for pictures of my parents car on Facebook and Google Maps to try to find the plate number before calling my mom for her not to panic, to find out from her that it was my dad. Not the best thing to see since I've already lost my sister in an accident after Xmas 9 years ago...He was ok, only a bit of whiplash, but the car was scrapped of course. Sad that this was a drunk driver a 9am on a Wednesday....who even tried to flee on foot, but was stopped by one of the gym owners across the street who witnessed the accident.

http://www.niagarathisweek.com/news-story/7008162-impaired-driver-wreaks-havoc-in-port-colborne/
http://www.chch.com/port-colborne-m...ng-charges-multi-vehicle-crash-caught-camera/

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So it means that when I came back down to Niagara, it was car shopping time. Although a first he wanted a fuel efficient crossover, with the 2002 Escape (V6 AWD) still being in great shape, and even 4cyl CUVs being a tad too fuel inefficient for his likes and needs (being partially retired), we started to look a mid sized cars; Honda Accord (too expensive), Toyota Camry (wanted an SE), Nissan Altima (POS and/or bad dealership experience) and Mazda6 (steering too heavy). While after renewing the rental car and to have me covered on it to drive up to Toronto the next day to look at more cars (my dad isn't a fan of the T-Dot drivers, and knows I know the city well) we ventured across the street to another Toyota dealership to look for more Camrys, and a red Corolla S struck my dad's eye. After a test drive, my dad was quite interested, but I knew the motor and suspension are basically a decade old technology, so I insist before OK'ing the Corolla, that we test drive a Mazda3 first. Yes indeed I am biased towards Mazda, but I have good reason I'd like to say, and they also had very good experience with their old 1991 626, which is why I got my 1992 Mx-3 GS (KLZE Swapped), which was subsequently replaced with my 2004 Rx-8 GT. Regardless of my bias, this is my parents car, and want them in the end to be very happy with their new car in all it's aspects, but also want them to make a good and educated experience, and it's them making the decision; I'm just pointing to choices/options that suite them, while also making sure it's not a POS. In the drive, my dad fell in love with the 3, but another plus that I didn't think of was the hatchback, which gives him some CUV-like functionality that he initially wanted.

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And 2 days later, I hacked the system to give them free navigation. If you're familiar with Telnet, FTP and Linux systems, it's quite easy, but needs a USB NIC.
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Coming back from picking up the car, my dad wanted to stop by the new Princess Auto in St Catharines. It opened up since I've last been down, and it's very much closer then the one in Hamilton. The main reason for stopping there will be talked about further below, but going through the aisles, I saw the military water jugs that I always wanted for the trailer, and then I notice the price and think, they're normally way more expensive then this...so I tell my dad, and pick 2 up. At the cash, they came up their "regular" price and we told her it was incorrect, so the cashier asks me to go take a picture of the tag on the shelf with my phone, and indeed, we got them at the marked price of $18.99 as opposed to their $44.99 (or was it $49.99), and man was I happy and to of had the 2 in my cart!

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But the main reason why stopped by is that I had asked my dad, being a retired Millwright, was to piece me out an emergency car battery stick welding kit for Christmas, which in the end he considers it my birthday present since I'm not around in February
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For those that have been following the build, part of the plan and design of the trailer is to have it equipped with a total of 3 batteries. Most of the reason is to have plenty of reserve power and not need to be regularly charged by the tow vehicle, and while it is equipped with a charger, shore power is usually not available, and I'm not yet equipped with solar panels. The other major reason for specifically having 3 batteries is for emergency welding for repairs. While I have heard and seen videos of it being done with 2 batteries, when I seen it done in person at a friend's place for the first time, it wasn't all that effective, and we actually took a battery from my Xterra to bump the voltage up to 36 volts with much improvement.
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When he was at school was specifically told to never do this, had never seen it done before, so was curious to give this a shot before I left back to Quebec with it.


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The sticks we picked up some 6011 3/32 rods and my dad wanted to try it at first at 24 volts. This proved to not be very effective and was only good for small quick tacks, however bumping up to 3 batteries at 36 volts, it would actually burn holes straight through the metal. I actually watched on a few occasions the rod having a flame on it for it's entire length. Changing the polarity didn't see to make much of a difference, and despite the box of the rods saying otherwise, we found it worked better with negative ground connection. The picture showing the results of these welds is the one where they're not very pretty.

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My dad at this point was very impressed at the power behind this setup, but realised the 3/32 rods were too small for the job. He by chance had an old stainless steel 1/8 welding rod in his old work toolbox. Despite its age, it worked astonishingly well and confirmed that 1/8" rods were the way to go. He also suggested to go to a 7011 rod, but wasn't opposed to carrying some 1/8 stainless rods for a slag-free weld.

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While I do have my Lincoln 220v MIG, and access to an actual stick welder, this kit was put together for the main and really, sole purpose, for trail and trip fixes. While there are welders specifically for this purpose, like the known Ready Welder, this is pieced together for a fraction of the price. While the trailer is still missing 1 battery, I could easily grab one from the Xterra, and also that the batteries in the trailer aren't easily accessible, but details to be worked on in time.
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So there's my massive update for the last 2 months. At the moment, we're actually searching for a house, and that house HAS to have a garage, detached, and decent sized one so I can work on my projects, repairs, and any other stuff me and my girlfriend's mind can come up with. I'm sick of being in an apartment, and I think it's time.
 
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basing110

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Would you buy that awning again if you could go back in time? Anything that needs fixing to make better right away?

Its the only one i can find that doesnt angle and is sqaure on the driverside front edge. With the awning walls does it seal up on all sides and the floor or just the outer edges?

Im looking for somthing that would seal up good to keep the mosquitos / snakes out and provide safe area for kids to play if possible.
 

Srpat

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I bought the same awning last year with help from frontrailer. I love it, but I think it depends what your setup is on how valuable it can be. I have my rtt 6' in the air opening to the side with the annex permanently attached. I have our bathroom/shower/dish area on the other side and the kitchen out the back on a big slideout. The awning lets me enclose the shower area and kitchen with almost continuous coverage to the door on the rtt annex. I can set it up myself in about 5 minutes, so I'm happy.

The walls come with enough fabric to completely enclose the awning. Since I need access to the side and back of the trailer, I don't use all of the awning walls. There is one zipper in the entire set of walls that lets me do this. You can have complete coverage, or unzip it and have complete coverage except for the side and back. You do not have the option of choosing individual panels to attach. Awning walls attach only with a velcro seal. With all the walls attached, I would think it would be a pretty good seal to keep out bugs. At least with my order, it did not coome with a floor, but there is velcro on the walls for a floor. Not much interest for me in a floor with how it is used. For me, it is to keep out rain, wind, and give us privacy. When used, we will set up out popup shower tent in the corner to have a tent within a tent.

The awning walls are a bit of a pain to put up. With one continuous section of wall thats something like 25 feet of tent fabric to wrestle with. But when put up it beats every other awning available on the market.

It is a very impressive amount of space that is great for a basecamp stay of 2 nights or more.


Would you buy that awning again if you could go back in time? Anything that needs fixing to make better right away?

Its the only one i can find that doesnt angle and is sqaure on the driverside front edge. With the awning walls does it seal up on all sides and the floor or just the outer edges?

Im looking for somthing that would seal up good to keep the mosquitos / snakes out and provide safe area for kids to play if possible.
 

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