Off-Road trailer with full kitchen system

[winstonclein]

I dunno, but I like to have options. I thought they were made by AT @ first, but it is clear they are not.
This trailer looks good to me. Even thought if the welding isn't a tenderloin I wouldn't care as long as it hold well together the trailer. Paying a couple of K's less of what I've seen around sounds good to me as well.
So, I'd also like to know who made them, do the math and see.

 

[Jeff Wanamog]

I dunno, but I like to have options. I thought they were made by AT @ first, but it is clear they are not.
This trailer looks good to me. Even thought if the welding isn't a tenderloin I wouldn't care as long as it hold well together the trailer. Paying a couple of K's less of what I've seen around sounds good to me as well.
So, I'd also like to know who made them, do the math and see.

Ah the American way, pay less for an inferior product while our friends and neighbors are starving and loosing their homes.
I myself would rather pay the fair price for the better product.

Don't forget AT was once an importer. If you wanted a Bushwakka trailer, you went through them.
I have known Mario for a long time. I owned one of the last trailers he imported.
I am saying this to show that AT has been there and done that and now they make a fantastic American product.
I love seeing hand made trailers and rig modifications. You will never hear AT put down someone who does their own work or another trailer MFG.
And that's one of the reasons why they still get love here. I still love them even after they moved from Upland. Still pissed, but I love them.
If the Chinese trailer was something new and trick, that's fine. But when it is only a copy of what we make here, we should never even consider it at any price.

Just my .02.
Jeff

 

[Dave Bennett]

You will never hear AT put down someone who does their own work or another trailer MFG.
And that's one of the reason they still get love here.

x2

 

[winstonclein]

Ah the American way, pay less for an inferior product while our friends and neighbors are starving and loosing their homes.
I myself would rather pay the fair price for the better product........................................bla, bla, bla, bla..........................................
Jeff

Exactly!! the american way: Free of choice, free market, freedom of speech.....By the way, it is not my fault if somebody else is not doing right during this time. AT are great trailers I bet, and If you want to support someone feel free and pay as much as you can that's your call. I like having choices and I can consider looking at another one if fits in my needs and my budget specially on this times.
I don't know if whether they are Chinese or not; But, if they are that is a point I might consider among others. I don't know; PO only asked the name of these trailers and the argument jumped right away. I am still looking forward for the right answer instead dismissing someone else products.

 

[bob]

Well all the Honda, Toyota, Nissan, Kia owners better sell back their cars I guess. Better take back that flat screen, possibly the tires on your vehicles.

I do not endorse buying out of country, but I own a Toyota, a Nissan, a Ford and a GMC. I buy what works for me, and if it comes from Mars and it fits my needs I will buy it period. Do not need some holier than thow thoughts.

And to top it all off, does anyone really know who made it where it comes from and the quality.

Again there are options to an Adventure Trailer.

 

[EdwardBernal]

I've been on here a long time, and so has AT. Since the very beginning in fact.

They sponsor this forum, and that in turn helps all here, vendors and consumers. "A rising tide raises all ships" is very true.

But they're not the only ones who get "love" here on this site, there is room here for all. I for one am all about supporting the smaller enterprises within this segment.

That being said, I'd guess that if instead of buying the real deal I chose to buy a cheap Chinese copy of a Campa, a Horizon, or a Jurgens, or a SoCal Teardrop or an Eezi-Awn etc etc my level of customer service, and long term satisfaction, would be far less.

Buyer beware of cheap imitations flooding the market.

I hear you Doc - I haven't been here since the beginning but I have read quite a few trailer threads and it seems like a number of commercially made trailers
are inevitably compared to AT. When DNTL740 made his inital comment, I guess it reminded me just how much I've heard/read about AT. I have not seen one
of thier trailers in person but I have absolutely no doubt that they are bulletproof. I have never been accused of being "thrifty" when spending cash on my
fishing,camping or hunting gear but I must admit that when surfed the AT I was a bit surprised when I saw the pricing sheet. That is all...

 

[EdwardBernal]

I see from your sig that you own an Outlander Sherpa II trailer. Feel free to show the Sherpa as much "love" as you want here. It's all good my friend.



I think Bob's point regarding AT's customer satisfaction is the main reason why AT trailers get quite a bit of positive press. (Full Disclosure: I am also a satisfied AT Chaser customer)

The attention given AT can also have a flip side. There are other threads on the Portal in which customers feel their expectations have not been met by AT. In those instances, AT isn't being shown much love. Most folks here seem to be pretty vocal and tend to call it as they see it... which, in my opinion, is the way it should be.

Carry on! :1888fbbd:

I hear you on all fronts bud and agree...The Sherpa II was a recent aquisition from a fellow ExPo member here and I will post up a Trailer Modification Thread when I start up after the new year.
I won't call it a build thread since its a commercial trailer. I hope I didn't come off as Anti - AT, I think they are awesome and it seems like they are really into pleasing the customer which is great.

 

[Jeff Wanamog]

Exactly!! the american way: Free of choice, free market, freedom of speech.....By the way, it is not my fault if somebody else is not doing right during this time. AT are great trailers I bet, and If you want to support someone feel free and pay as much as you can that's your call. I like having choices and I can consider looking at another one if fits in my needs and my budget specially on this times.
I don't know if whether they are Chinese or not; But, if they are that is a point I might consider among others. I don't know; PO only asked the name of these trailers and the argument jumped right away. I am still looking forward for the right answer instead dismissing someone else products.

Winstonclien, I see you have only been on this forum for a short time. If you are going to quote me, please don't change my words to be a drama queen. It was already determined that the two trailers in question were hand made. My statements were not intended to be a "Buy American" rant. But if all you can do is ripp off someone else's idea and then can even make it with the same quality, then I think that is sad that someone would even consider it because it was cheaper. I guess that I can afford to pay for quality and not buy a cheap knock off just so I can be a poser.

Just my .02
Jeff

 

[mvbeggs]

Well....not exactly

... I guess it reminded me just how much I've heard/read about AT. I have not seen one
of thier trailers in person but I have absolutely no doubt that they are bulletproof....

Well, I wouldn't say "bulletproof"... but real close...:sombrero:



I WILL say that Mario was on the phone to me within 10 minutes of leaving a message on his phone. He sent pics, made suggestions, and basically helped in any way he could. (the inner bearing had actually seized on the spindle) He went above and beyond. After I got home he made everything right. Can't complain.

 

[Titanpat57]

Many, many people here on this forum have benefited from Mario and Martyn's sweat equity, that is built into their quality products. Either in their fine products built by them, or from the quality products they carry. We all know and understand that cheap imports are exactly that, and many times will fail the test of time, or endurance. Some people never realize the value of quality, but that's why choice is important, let the buyer beware.

The one true thing that remains unspoken, and often taken for granted here, is the benovolance that Mario and Martyn share, and show to ALL their fellow trailer builders, and not just the customers. Tons of people have posted hundreds, if not thousands of questions here in this very forum, regarding and relating to every possible part of a trailer build, and one of those two, if not both, will probably be in the in the top first responders willing to lend sound advice EVERY FRIGGIN TIME. They take time from their days work to assist some person they don't even know, to post a file regarding military wheel bearings.....and this goes on all day, 7 days a week.

Thank you Mario and Martyn...damn straight you guys deserve all the love around here.....you've EARNED it! :beer:

 

[winstonclein]

Sorry Wanomog, I didn't mean to hurt your feelings on my second post, but I didn't feel like posting again something worthless, and specially unrelated to the first intention of this thread. This time I didn't even bother to quote you.

By the way, does someone know who is making them? I am still so curious to know, mainly because just happen to be I am looking for a expedition trailer I can haul on trails.

I don't care if they are from Australia, or Asia, as 2 of my vehicles; or from USA as my F250 diesel FX4 and made in America 24' gooseneck weekender 3 horses trailer.

I just want options to see what's best for my fit; as simple as that.

I think people used to call Japanese cars cheap and unreliable in the 60's, and nowadays there are a bunch of their descendants don't even think about another brands.
It is all about competitiveness and that's why America is such a great country so far, and not about talking to much on unrelated things or showing off I can effort this or that.

 

[lenin sifontes]

I went to see the trailers on Saturday and they are made by overland gear and equipment. According to them some of the boxes are manufactured in China while the frame, suspension, and the tongue box plus all the extra stuff that makes this trailer unique are manufactured here in the USA. The quality of the trailer is excellent and their roof top tent is really nice and what I like the most is the adjustable ladder. I am hoping I can sell my trailer before they sale the last one and the price tag is $8900 fully equipped. I'm taking pictures of my M416 this Saturday to put for sale, if anyone is looking for a M416 trailer PM me.

 

[bob]

Thanks for tracking them down, and thank you for the information. You did mention that you are wanting to buy the last one. Is that an indication that they are no longer building them or just the last one the dealer has.

Good find.

 

[MIGZ]

I find it funny how people always get caught up on where it is made. Try walking around your house and I will bet money that more than 70% of everything you pick up is made over seas. The argument that everything made in china is crap is old and over. That's what people want you to believe but trust me you can pay for more quality in China too just like here in the US the more you typically pay the better the quality.

If people don't like to see business go overseas complain to your senators who are the ones that drive companies and people to look at producing parts overseas. B/c they take away all incentive to want to produce stuff here. Like taxes, Unions (paying unqualified people ridiculous wages) exaggerated insurance premiums. All that crap is a racket.

The reason that AT ( I own one) are so dang expensive is b/c is cost AT a lot of money to produce those trailer here in the US and they still have to make money. I know I would not produce anything here in the US for less that a 35-40% margin. Making it damn hard to compete with some that can produce stuff over seas and have it shipped here to the US for 25% of the US produced product.

Companies that sell things here in the US pay taxes to the US. So regardless of where these trailer are made they are feeding people in another country and helping some one in this country make an honest living. I prefer someone import and an earn an honest living than be one welfare and me have to take care of them.

I am a capitalist and hope the guy selling these trailer does well. Not everyone can afford an AT nor do they need an AT. At prides its self on a robust suspension to take the trailer on extreme trails. Most people do not take their trailer on extreme trails but on gravel roads.

 

[Captm]

I'll leave the tax, union rap etc. to the political forums. The true cost of purchasing from overseas as in Asia, is hidden from the consumer. After many trips to China building a yacht I have seen first hand the true cost in the form of unimaginable pollution pouring into the rivers and filling the sky. Prison like manufacturing plants with little if any reguard to the health and safety of the workers. When I say prison like I mean row upon row of factories surrounded by 3 meter fences topped with barb wire to keep the workers there 24 hours a day all year except for the New Year holiday. How about 800-1000 workers in crammed in dorms being being fed fish from the aquacultur farms down the where the sewage from the houses surrounding the area drain into the ponds. Think out it when you buy "cheap" farmed raised fish from Asia. There are factories that are green and have good work conditions but they are very few and very far between. In my eyes the cost of products made overseas is far greater then those made here.