OME Springs "Handedness"... True?

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R_Lefebvre

Expedition Leader
No, far from it. I will answer no more of your questions until you present something relevant to the topic at hand. You have asked no pertinent questions, made no points, and presented no evidence to support any opinion or conclusion.
 
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Geo14cux

Adventurer
Just as I thought your exp is with one set of OME springs or you would have never asked the OQ.
EE has seen thousands. Your just upset cus John told you like it was. You also seem to have an axe to grind or you wouldn't go out of your way to discredit the business.
So, I really have no more questions for you.
Furthermore, who I am means bupkis. A mans name really has nothing to do with anything. Unless, you have an ego.
 

ntsqd

Heretic Car Camper
So EE has seen "thousands". Did they also install every last set of those? A sample pool of one or a sample pool of thousands means nothing if the conclusion drawn is erroneous.

Look at it another way: you are an OE vehicle mfg. Why would you want to have different LH & RH spring part numbers? You can alter the design so that a spring will fit either side. One less part number in inventory and on the vehicle. You Accounting office will positively cheer that decision, and rightly so.

Look at it a third way: You are a spring mfg making product for specific uses and applications in a relatively small market. To keep your costs under control you'll want to make as few unique part numbers as possible to cover the range of applications. That is basic business sense. Making LH and RH part numbers makes no sense unless there is something unique about the vehicle that absolutely requires it. To make sure that you don't need different LH & RH part numbers you'd do a lot of testing in the design phase. The last thing that you want is a reputation for lift springs that cause your customer's trucks to lean. That would be a really difficult reputation to over-come. So, as a conscientious mfg who is well aware of the price of a good reputation and how easily lost it can be, you would want to make sure that you weren't delivering poor product. Given that this is OME's positioning in the market, why would they intentionally sell springs that cause a lean?
 
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Connie

Day walker, Overland Certified OC0013
STOP!

Let's stop measuring please. This quibbling has gone far enough.
 

sinuhexavier

Explorer
The whole point of this, is a discussion about EE's claim that OME somehow screwed up when they created "handed" springs, and that customers should pay extra money to have EE match them up again, or else you will end up with a truck that will "lean".

EE does not charge more for handed springs... Sure they may charge more than a discount warehouse, but I know for a fact that when a shock breaks in the middle of Utah on a Saturday that a discount warehouse isn't going to warranty it for you sight unseen and next day air it with no questions asked. Ask me how I know...

That level of customer service is what you pay for.
 

ntsqd

Heretic Car Camper
You have seen how many sets of ome's come out of the box?
What do the little stickers on them say?
Your point being?

To answer your question mine did not come in a box. I picked them up loose, and there was an 'A' and a 'B' spring for the rear.

My point was that OME did their best to sell a set of springs that would result in a level vehicle. If that took an 'A' and a 'B' spring it was done when all other options were expired. And since they did that, don't you think they would have taken great pains to do it right? I would since their market position is one of quality. And if there were a problem I would also expect them to make a running correction.
 

R_Lefebvre

Expedition Leader
EE does not charge more for handed springs... Sure they may charge more than a discount warehouse, but I know for a fact that when a shock breaks in the middle of Utah on a Saturday that a discount warehouse isn't going to warranty it for you sight unseen and next day air it with no questions asked. Ask me how I know...

That level of customer service is what you pay for.

Fair enough. You pays your money and you takes your chances. In my case, ain't nothing being shipped overnight into Canada in any case.
 

I Leak Oil

Expedition Leader
The springs that OME makes for other brand vehicles....Are they handed? On Series leaf spring land rovers the factory springs are handed. That's the way Rover did it. I don't know, I have heard good testimonies from people who have both handed and matched sets. So if OME gives an even vehicle out of the box, and EE does as well, what the heck are you all arguing about?
I've had limited, but good dealings with EE. That's not based on feelings or opinion, that's based in real life facts....
Some of you just need to get your noses out of the books and off the web and pickup some real experience with some of this stuff. My God, thinking your right on the web isn't the end all, be all.......
Jason T.
 
Blatant Commercial Plug to follow.

I have purchased parts and equipment from two companies that are also active in this forum. Expedition Exchange and Sierra Expeditions. I have received excellent service from them both and while someone else may charge less on some items, I will continue to buy from these two suppliers because of the service. Service has value. A buyer may not always acknowledge the value of service until it is absent, but it has value. It has the greatest value when you are in the greatest need.
 

nosivad_bor

New member
EE does not charge more for handed springs... Sure they may charge more than a discount warehouse, but I know for a fact that when a shock breaks in the middle of Utah on a Saturday that a discount warehouse isn't going to warranty it for you sight unseen and next day air it with no questions asked. Ask me how I know...

That level of customer service is what you pay for.

Amen to that.

I have personally installed at least a dozen OME spring lifts on Discovery's and the variation of spring heights, left vs right, from ARB can sometimes be huge. After many of us complained about leaning lifts, EE started taking measurements and matching springs. It became a preventative thing on their part. No longer did they have to get phone calls of leaning Land Rovers because they matched them, thus avoiding the issue all together.

I will say to future readers that Rob's situation (lack of lean) is the exception and not the rule. This is coming from years of experience and personal involvement with Land Rover community.

Get the matched springs.

Regards,
Rob Davison
 

sinuhexavier

Explorer
Amen to that.

I have personally installed at least a dozen OME spring lifts on Discovery's and the variation of spring heights, left vs right, from ARB can sometimes be huge. After many of us complained about leaning lifts, EE started taking measurements and matching springs. It became a preventative thing on their part. No longer did they have to get phone calls of leaning Land Rovers because they matched them, thus avoiding the issue all together.

I will say to future readers that Rob's situation (lack of lean) is the exception and not the rule. This is coming from years of experience and personal involvement with Land Rover community.

Get the matched springs.

Regards,
Rob Davison

Oh Man... I wasn't even talking about your situation... That was one remote spot to get a delivery...

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sinuhexavier

Explorer
Fair enough. You pays your money and you takes your chances. In my case, ain't nothing being shipped overnight into Canada in any case.

Take my chances on what?

My truck not being level?

After 4 sets of matched OME springs from EE on 2 different D1's I have yet to have an unlevel truck.

Speaking of which anyone wanna buy used set? I forgot I had some in my garage...
 

Geo14cux

Adventurer
Take my chances on what?

My truck not being level?

After 4 sets of matched OME springs from EE on 2 different D1's I have yet to have an unlevel truck.

Speaking of which anyone wanna buy used set? I forgot I had some in my garage...

BUT BUT those springs are worthless because they are NOT as OME designed them. OMG! :Wow1:
 
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