One rig to rule them all

ricoisme26

Active member
I have a serious first world problem on my hands, the desire to have one rig for everything. Commuting to and from work, picking up groceries, hauling/towing duties (truck stuff), and most pertinent expeditioning.

I have a modest truck that at one time served this role, however with new opportunities, moving houses, and so on it has began to primarily fill the niche of truck stuff. I acquired a "beater" car from a friend several years ago that has taken on commuting and grocery runs, it has made further journeys but primarily stays within the territory of home and work. My wife was then fortunate enough to land a job with a company car that we are permitted to use for personal use as well. This car has become our default mode of transportation when together, visiting friend and family, getting groceries, ski trips, vacations that are destination based. Work fills the tank, at least locally, it is fuel efficient so on long trips when we foot the gas bill we suck up the lack of luggage room in exchange for a lower gas bill. With the notification of impending electrification of her work vehicle we purchased a family hauler to take over family trips and evening errands when she rolls home with a dead EV. This new purchase may have only compounded my problem.

I feel that I am in constant flux in my vehicle travel. I am in each vehicle every other week if not every week. I have no home base, I commute in the beater because its cheap, its fuel efficient, its approaching 300k miles so there is no incentive to keep the miles off of it. The only vehicle making a more sensible case to be driven is the company car, we didn't pay for it, we don't pay for fuel (locally), we don't pay to maintain it, its a free lunch. Our new family hauler is driven once a week to keep it from sitting, low miles, a great deal when purchased, and great overall condition keep it in sheltered in the garage otherwise, protecting our "investment". My truck that I enjoy driving (though maybe not as much as the luxurious family rig) sits unless its capabilities are required. I would enjoy commuting in it but 60 miles round trip daily sounds like double the fuel bill of my beater, not to mention additional wear and tear and consumables, my financially sensible self rejects the idea long before I am truly tempted.


Does anyone have a solution to this conundrum? Maybe I just need to touch some grass, slip on someone else's shoes and walk a mile then realize I have it toolbox full, rather than one screw driver to use for all purposes.
 

Roam.Wild

Well-known member
There's no such thing really. Every rig has upsides and down, this question gets asked pretty often on here. In a week you'll have 25 replies to this thread with 25 different answers.

Get a list of things you want / need from a rig, then find a vehicle you like that hits most of them.
 
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Gravelette

Well-known member
I have a serious first world problem on my hands, the desire to have one rig for everything. Commuting to and from work, picking up groceries, hauling/towing duties (truck stuff), and most pertinent expeditioning.

I have a modest truck that at one time served this role, however with new opportunities, moving houses, and so on it has began to primarily fill the niche of truck stuff. I acquired a "beater" car from a friend several years ago that has taken on commuting and grocery runs, it has made further journeys but primarily stays within the territory of home and work. My wife was then fortunate enough to land a job with a company car that we are permitted to use for personal use as well. This car has become our default mode of transportation when together, visiting friend and family, getting groceries, ski trips, vacations that are destination based. Work fills the tank, at least locally, it is fuel efficient so on long trips when we foot the gas bill we suck up the lack of luggage room in exchange for a lower gas bill. With the notification of impending electrification of her work vehicle we purchased a family hauler to take over family trips and evening errands when she rolls home with a dead EV. This new purchase may have only compounded my problem.

I feel that I am in constant flux in my vehicle travel. I am in each vehicle every other week if not every week. I have no home base, I commute in the beater because its cheap, its fuel efficient, its approaching 300k miles so there is no incentive to keep the miles off of it. The only vehicle making a more sensible case to be driven is the company car, we didn't pay for it, we don't pay for fuel (locally), we don't pay to maintain it, its a free lunch. Our new family hauler is driven once a week to keep it from sitting, low miles, a great deal when purchased, and great overall condition keep it in sheltered in the garage otherwise, protecting our "investment". My truck that I enjoy driving (though maybe not as much as the luxurious family rig) sits unless its capabilities are required. I would enjoy commuting in it but 60 miles round trip daily sounds like double the fuel bill of my beater, not to mention additional wear and tear and consumables, my financially sensible self rejects the idea long before I am truly tempted.


Does anyone have a solution to this conundrum? Maybe I just need to touch some grass, slip on someone else's shoes and walk a mile then realize I have it toolbox full, rather than one screw driver to use for all purposes.
Bummer, constant flux for sure sounds uncomfortable.
 

ricoisme26

Active member
N +1 is both the solution and the problem haha. I have always been a "right tool for the job" kind of guy rather than using a swiss army knife. I guess I failed to ask a question, maybe I was more so starting a conversation around something that's been on my mind lately.

Maybe its a mental thing, when I am taking a weekend trip instead of doing the logical thing and taking the car with free gas do what moves the spirit and jump in my truck, take the slow lane, enjoy the drive not only the destination.
 

gatorgrizz27

Well-known member
It can be annoying having too many vehicles besides the space, insurance and maintenance. Where are your sunglasses, rain jacket, jump starter box, etc? Who can remember?

The constraints are going to be how heavy do you need to tow, and how tight/challenging are your off road trips.

IMO, actual fuel economy is overrated as long as it’s in the “reasonable” realm. People will buy a $50k vehicle over a $25k one and justify it based on fuel mileage/cost. At a 60 mile per day commute, you’re talking about a difference of $20/week between a vehicle getting 15 mpg and one that gets 20 mpg. That’s $1,000/year, not nothing but probably not wildly significant in the grand scheme of things.

My previous vehicle was a Land Rover LR3, and it was still my favorite of everything I’ve owned. Extremely good on and off road, could tow 4,000 lbs very comfortably, large cargo area, seating for 7 when needed, and just a joy to drive. Down sides were fuel economy and range, and a Rover may not be the best choice if maintenance costs bother you.

I went from it to a 2017 F-150 and it is also very practical. It tows 8,000 great, has a much larger fuel tank, and the truck bed is nice for many things. It is terrible off road in comparison, even with basically the same tires and a rear locker, and it is large enough to be a headache to maneuver sometimes both on town and in the woods.

I’d guess your ideal vehicle would be somewhere in between, it might be a 4 Runner or a Tundra if you’re a Toyota guy.
 
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p nut

butter
N +1 is both the solution and the problem haha. I have always been a "right tool for the job" kind of guy rather than using a swiss army knife. I guess I failed to ask a question, maybe I was more so starting a conversation around something that's been on my mind lately.

Maybe its a mental thing, when I am taking a weekend trip instead of doing the logical thing and taking the car with free gas do what moves the spirit and jump in my truck, take the slow lane, enjoy the drive not only the destination.

I think it would help if you would identify what vehicles are in your possession right now. Hard to recommend based on “truck” “beater” “family hauler” etc.

Also, what type of offroad trails you like to do. For how long?

More details would help.
 

ricoisme26

Active member
I admittedly am a soft roader, when I even find the time to get out and camp.
2012 Ford F150
2005 Pontiac Vibe
2018 Ford Expedition

Also have a trailer with a roof top tent mounted on it, no tow hitch on the Pontiac but It would be more than capable of towing the trailer so any vehicle could serve my purpose of a soft roader.

My wife and I's main hobby has become bass fishing so many trips have turned towards that, staying in cabins/airbnb/hotles vs camping while towing the boat. tent could be moved to truck or suv though, I've also thought of picking up a nice ground tent so camp doesn't need broken down each morning if we are staying the same location multiple nights.
 

rruff

Explorer
So... you want permission to buy another vehicle. :p You have my permission, supposing you also have your wife's. A new "expeditioning" vehicle... pickup I guess? Get a nice one and commute in it; sounds like you can afford it.

Obsessing over MPG is usually false economy. Fuel is relatively cheap in the US, and the fuel cost is small in the grand scheme, especially if it's a newish vehicle where yearly depreciation is a major factor. It also doesn't make a lot of sense to just let vehicles sit, since they will depreciate and deteriorate, and you're still paying for registration and insurance. But if you can afford it, then no worries.
 

ricoisme26

Active member
I think just getting the thought out of my head and down on paper typed out on a screen helped me realize I need to just drive my truck. It also got me rethinking my tent trailer and how to make it more practical, in the hopes that we utilize what we already have more.

I agree fuel is relatively inexpensive in comparison to additional vehicles or a newer vehicle. This keeps me daily driving my pontiac that was essentially free instead of buying something else for creature comforts like AC, bluetooth, and smoother ride, less road noise, to make my commute in. Even if I bought a new pickup to replace my truck and the suv I'd be hard pressed to get rid of the little pontiac that costs me next to nothing to own and operate. I'd still likely feel the need to drive it, keep miles off the newer vehicle, spend less on gas, be frugal.

I don't think I'd be as keen on off roading a newer pickup truck especially here on the eastern side of the US (PA). My truck is no show queen, it's been used as a truck, it came with dings and dents when I bought it and through use it's gained some. dings and dents are becoming memories, maybe I just need to accept them and make more with the truck I own, accepting that some extra gas is the cost of those memories.
 

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