(partially) new Tundra coming?

[DaveInDenver]

Four door cabs don't help since I don't need the extra seats & space or wheelbase.

The doors improve the XtraCab's utility by an order of magnitude. I keep tools in the cubbies and it's easier to roll them out and find what you need if you're not crawling over a half reclined seat. I also have my radios installed under the front seats and I can get at them to program their memories much easier.

It's also removing the B pillar that I think makes it work. Double Cabs have four doors that open the same way, so it's still an interrupted opening. When I was installing radios being able to take the seat out and leave a yuge empty hole to work was awesome.

 

[Clutch]

Four door cabs don't help since I don't need the extra seats & space or wheelbase.

The doors improve the XtraCab's utility by an order of magnitude. I keep tools in the cubbies and it's easier to roll them out and find what you need if you're not crawling over a half reclined seat. I also have my radios installed under the front seats and I can get at them to program their memories much easier.

It's also removing the B pillar that I think makes it work. Double Cabs have four doors that open the same way, so it's still an interrupted opening. When I was installing radios being able to take the seat out and leave a yuge empty hole to work was awesome.

Like the opening doors ,but don't like how it opens. Buddy's dad has a 1st gen Tundra, and it is a bit annoying. Have clamsheel for the rear doors on my Trooper and don't care for it. Like the conventional opening doors better. The reason I would choose a DC over an AC. Don't need seats either, would rip those out and put storage back there. Would fit moto gear bags with ease.

Longwheel base doesn't bother me, since I don't do anything too-too gnar off-pavement.

That said, what I have does 98% of the things I need it to do.

 

[DaveInDenver]

I guess I just don't see any reason for a 4 door pickup over a 4 door wagon. It's the worst of everything. Not quite as comfortable in back as a 4Runner, can't fold down the back seats for a flat length of extra storage, additionally compromised bed, etc. I'd buy an oversized regular cab and 7' bed Tacoma if I could.

 

[bkg]

From potentially new tundra to clamshell door debate. Glad I’m not the only one with ADD.. squirrel!!

 

[rruff]

Have been seeing a lot of new GM's running around...the grill on those things, good gawd....it is like people are driving a wall around. I just don't see the point of all of it...are We really that insecure, that we need all that plumage and chest puffing?

I'd definitely vote for the Tundra bucking the trend and going back to a more practical "nose" and bed/window height.

 

[Buliwyf]

I guess I just don't see any reason for a 4 door pickup over a 4 door wagon. It's the worst of everything. Not quite as comfortable in back as a 4Runner, can't fold down the back seats for a flat length of extra storage, additionally compromised bed, etc. I'd buy an oversized regular cab and 7' bed Tacoma if I could.

This is a point of view thing. From my point of view, CC trucks are the cats meow, and Suburbans and 4runners are obsolete.

-I can put 4 fullsize refrigerators in my bed, or stack up my 55 gallon camp totes, with my gear, AND everyone elses.
That compromised bed is still many times larger than the inside of an SUV. A Tundra should still be good for 2 fridges or 4 totes.

-Can carry motorcycles and bicycles upright.
-Fold down seats are useless, because cargo in the interior, just tears up the interior. I hate abused looking interiors, and it hurts resale. Not to mention what a 80 pound steel Scuba tank will do to someones face in a crash.

-slide in campers, flat beds and camp boxes etc.
-can crate the dogs in the bed, instead of inside where they can't piss and $%^& everywhere

I'm never going back to SUV's.

 

[Clutch]

I guess I just don't see any reason for a 4 door pickup over a 4 door wagon. It's the worst of everything. Not quite as comfortable in back as a 4Runner, can't fold down the back seats for a flat length of extra storage, additionally compromised bed, etc. I'd buy an oversized regular cab and 7' bed Tacoma if I could.

This is a point of view thing. From my point of view, CC trucks are the cats meow, and Suburbans and 4runners are obsolete.

-I can put 4 fullsize refrigerators in my bed, or stack up my 55 gallon camp totes, with my gear, AND everyone elses.
That compromised bed is still many times larger than the inside of an SUV. A Tundra should still be good for 2 fridges or 4 totes.

-Can carry motorcycles and bicycles upright.
-Fold down seats are useless, because cargo in the interior, just tears up the interior. I hate abused looking interiors, and it hurts resale. Not to mention what a 80 pound steel Scuba tank will do to someones face in a crash.

-slide in campers, flat beds and camp boxes etc.
-can crate the dogs in the bed, instead of inside where they can't piss and $%^& everywhere

I'm never going back to SUV's.

I am with Buliwyf on that, CC6+' bed are probably the best of all worlds. Or the Tundra, Silverado, and Ram extra cabs with the traditional opening doors. (though think Ram only offers CC now)

Find clamshells awkward. On my Trooper's rear doors not only are they a clamshell, there is a safety catch on the drivers side, and never fails...always have an armful of stuff, and have to reach over and try to unhook it. Prefer tailgates instead.

Speaking of oversized RC's I did like the 2nd Gen Tundra...has darn near the same amount of space behind the seats as my Tacoma Extra Cab, and an 8' bed. That makes a lot of utilitarian sense to me. But no manual and they are awfully thirsty.

 

[Clutch]

I'd definitely vote for the Tundra bucking the trend and going back to a more practical "nose" and bed/window height.

One of my favorite body styles, sweat and simple. But yan know, we now have midsizes that are darn near the size of the old fullsizes...so we still do have an option of buying those over the ginormous 1/2, 3/4, 1 tons. The Colorado and Ranger don't have overly huge grills. Heck, the Ranger has a better payload than some 1/2 tons.

Kinda like the Colorado looks-wise. CC6' bed...little lift takes the long awkward look out of it.

Don't mind the CCLB Tacoma either.

 

[DaveInDenver]

The battleship long DCLB do need a little lift and a bump in tire size to look proportional. They look awkward at stock height, almost like the 2WD longer wheelbase trucks do to me.

 

[Clutch]

The battleship long DCLB do need a little lift and a bump in tire size to look proportional. They look awkward at stock height, almost like the 2WD longer wheelbase trucks do to me.

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Yep, they look odd other-wise. Slammed isn't too bad either...think it is all about the wheel size.

 

[Dalko43]

Toyotas have always been under powered, their early trucks weren't meant to blast 80 mph down the highway, meant for working on farms and running around town making deliveries. But that is why the Tacoma was born, America is a different market than overseas. We are all about bigger, better, faster...and it shows for how bloated these trucks have become. It is almost comical. Have been seeing a lot of new GM's running around...the grill on those things, good gawd....it is like people are driving a wall around. I just don't see the point of all of it...are We really that insecure, that we need all that plumage and chest puffing?

Well the Tundra's 5.7l v8 isn't underpowered. Neither is the diesel hilux that I drove overseas. They are over-engineered, I think that's a better way of putting it.

The 3.5l v6 in the Tacoma is a good engine, but it just doesn't deliver good torque where a truck really needs it: down low in the RPM range. Toyota went with a good and efficient engine, but at the expense of torque delivery. I hope they don't do the same thing with the next Tundra.

 

[Highlander]

My post from the older topic.
It's more appropriate here

What I personally expect / wish in the Tunda 2020 is

- New 8 or 10 speed
- a new rear suspension (like Ram)
- Rear locker on all trims
- Fuel management system
- 120V outlets in the bed and in the cabin
- Full time awd, like the TLC200, as an option for people who care less about towing big stuff.
- May be a diesel too.

More suggestions and wishes accepted

 

[Clutch]

Well the Tundra's 5.7l v8 isn't underpowered. Neither is the diesel hilux that I drove overseas. They are over-engineered, I think that's a better way of putting it.

The 3.5l v6 in the Tacoma is a good engine, but it just doesn't deliver good torque where a truck really needs it: down low in the RPM range. Toyota went with a good and efficient engine, but at the expense of torque delivery. I hope they don't do the same thing with the next Tundra.

I was referring to the old trucks, they were under powered turds. But awfully tough turds, where the Toyota reliability reputation was born. When they came here, like you said, they are over-engineered...we don't use them as nearly as hard as the rest of the World...why they last seemingly forever.

The 3.5 is a little soft on the bottom. But Toyota's always had high revving engines. The gassers seemed happiest at around 3500 rpm. Most of us Americans grew up with V8's, believe we still have a hard time adjusting to that. That is the thing with Toyota engines, you can ring their neck, and they still come back for more.

 

[Clutch]

More suggestions and wishes accepted

Ahh, just bring the 70 series over for cripes sake already...

Wish Toyota stuck to doing their own thing, instead of trying to compete with the domestics.

No need for a giant grill or body bloat, just a good honest truck.

 

[Highlander]

If you have got dogs, which I will soon, I would rather have a pick up tuck. Especially for upland hunting.