(partially) new Tundra coming?

[Todd780]

Configurator went live in the US. Man.... that's A LOT of different packages. Would be so much easier if they went a la carte.

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[Grassland]

So anything for backwards Canada yet? Or are we six months behind as usual?

 

[Todd780]

So anything for backwards Canada yet? Or are we six months behind as usual?

Nothing yet. 6 months behind sounds about right. And that goes for websites from Toyota, Ford, Ram, Jeep etc, etc.... So annoying...

 

[XJLI]

Configurator went live in the US. Man.... that's A LOT of different packages. Would be so much easier if they went a la carte.

2025 Toyota Tundra | Toyota.com

Dare to venture farther with the all-new 2025 Tundra. More than a hardworking pickup, the 2025 Tundra is built to take you on far-out adventures that leave you with unforgettable memories.

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Toyota doesn't build a la carte. They predetermine the number of vehicles to be built with certain configs (colors, options, packages, etc) based on the previous years' take. When you "build" one, you're just getting an allotment.

 

[Red13]

I got a 12/9/21 build date for mine. Dealer had an Subsonic Red SR5 allocated so i put a deposit on it. I'm getting a stupid amount of money on my 2016 SR5 trade.

Switched over to an Army Green TRD off road instead.

 

[Todd780]

I see the Canadian build and price went live too. Looks like different option groups for US / CDN trucks? The US build and price seems to offer a lot more options.

I can't even see where to add tow mirrors onto an SR5 in the Canadian site?

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Am I missing something or does the Tundra only come with a 3:31 axle ratio and no option for any other?

 

[rruff]

Am I missing something or does the Tundra only come with a 3:31 axle ratio and no option for any other?

No options on the previous generation, so it would make sense. That was a 4.3 though... wonder what the spread of ratios is now?

 

[bkg]

No options on the previous generation, so it would make sense. That was a 4.3 though... wonder what the spread of ratios is now?

what is the gearing of the new trans? Rear axle ratios can be a non issue if paired with the trans correctly.

 

[Todd780]

wonder what the spread of ratios is now?

No clue. The info seems hard to come across. I had to hunt to even figure out it was 3.31's.

what is the gearing of the new trans? Rear axle ratios can be a non issue if paired with the trans correctly.

I suppose. But Ford offers a 10 spd and offers 3.15, 3.31, 3.55 and 3.73 gear ratio options.

 

[rruff]

This is the old one with the 4.3 rear:

1st: 3.333
2nd: 1.960
3rd: 1.353
4th: 1.000
5th: .728
6th: .588

This is the new with 3.31: https://www.tundras.com/threads/gear-ratios-and-transmission-specs.23705/

So the new 1st gear relative to the old is 4.92/3.333 x 3.31/4.3 = 1.136. So 13.6% lower. Would be nice if it was more... don't need all those tall gears.

 

[Todd780]

This is the old one with the 4.3 rear:

1st: 3.333
2nd: 1.960
3rd: 1.353
4th: 1.000
5th: .728
6th: .588

This is the new with 3.31: https://www.tundras.com/threads/gear-ratios-and-transmission-specs.23705/

So the new 1st gear relative to the old is 4.92/3.333 x 3.31/4.3 = 1.136. So 13.6% lower. Would be nice if it was more... don't need all those tall gears.

RPM's look good, should be good for MPG. Buuuut.... I tow with my trucks. I'm wondering if 3.31 will be sufficient enough to pull a trailer up up grades.

I have 3:73 gears now with my 6 spd and 5.0L V8. But was thinking if I stuck with Ford of going with a 3.5 Eco and 3.55....solely because of towing.

 

[rruff]

Should be fine. It's a lower 1st gear than the old gen by 13.6%, plus the engine surely has more low rpm torque than the 5.7l. Once you are out of 1st gear, the gearing doesn't really matter... you've got 10 of them. For pulling a trailer up steep grades at speed, HP is what you are looking at. The turbos are nice at altitude.

 

[bkg]

Toyota makes a bold move by forcing people to pay for a subscription to use the keyfob remote start...

Toyota Made Its Key Fob Remote Start Into a Subscription Service

Subscription-based features are taking over the automotive industry—and now they're coming for your key fob.

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[Todd780]

Toyota makes a bold move by forcing people to pay for a subscription to use the keyfob remote start...

Toyota Made Its Key Fob Remote Start Into a Subscription Service

Subscription-based features are taking over the automotive industry—and now they're coming for your key fob.

www.thedrive.com

Huh. Well that makes me not want to look at a Tundra as an option....

I wonder if that would affect the functionality of a 3rd party remote starter is someone wants remote start without having to pay Toyota's fee every month for the duration of ownership.

 

[Watt maker]

Huh. Well that makes me not want to look at a Tundra as an option....

I wonder if that would affect the functionality of a 3rd party remote starter is someone wants remote start without having to pay Toyota's fee every month for the duration of ownership.

I also really dislike this subscription based function. I can see having to pay a monthly or yearly fee for an app based service, just like I do now with DroneMobile. It’s a convenience that I’m willing to pay for not only for remote start but I can double check if I locked the truck or not, and of course the security function of it- it can warn me that the doors or tailgate have been opened. The DroneMobile is connected to a top level Compustar alarm/remote start system that communicates with the tundra and vise versa. If I choose not to pay for DroneMobile service, I still have complete functionality of the Compustar alarm and remote start via the fobs. This is exactly how it should be on the new tundra and every other vehicle.

As for a third party remote starter, I definitely think it could be done but will depend if there’s enough demand for it. With 3 years included service on the new tundra, it may take a while before there’s enough demand for it.