DaveInDenver
Middle Income Semi-Redneck
Please, more info! I originally wanted bolt on sliders (thinking Roger Brown's), but as I think about it I get less worried I was about welding them on.p1michaud said:
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p1michaud
Expedition Leader
Bolt on sliders.
I needed to remove them to do some minor body work. Since I've removed my mudflaps the lower front fender area (where it's held in place with bolts at the bottom near the seam weld) was down to bare metal due to rock chips, road salt & sand being thrown up on the sheet metal from the tires.
The other reason I wanted the ability to easily remove them was to give them the occasinal coat of paint. The winter climate here is really hard on painted finishes especially the onse that get constantly blasted with road sand & salt mixture.
I don't want this to degenerate into a weld on vs. bolt on argument thread but at the end of the day I prefer bolt on for the following reasons:
1-Easy to remove if required.
2-No heat affected zone in your frame due to the welding process, thus no long term concerns. There are may good welders that can weld to the frame of a vehicle but your backing plates that weld to the frame must be properly designed and welded.
3-With proper U shapped brackets that wrap arround your frame, use existing holes and distribute the weight evenly the sliders are as strong or stronger than the weld on ones plus there is no chance of tearing the metal out of your frame where the slider is welded to it. I admit that this would be rare, but there were a few reported cases on TTORA of this happening. If you manage to twist your frame with the U shaped brackets the vehicle will most likely have other more severe problems.
If you do a search on TTORA there are lots of discussions about weld on vs. bolt on.
At the end of the day for my needs I will never have anohter weld on slider if I can help it. Not to say that welded sliders don't have their place.
Cheers :beer:,
p
I needed to remove them to do some minor body work. Since I've removed my mudflaps the lower front fender area (where it's held in place with bolts at the bottom near the seam weld) was down to bare metal due to rock chips, road salt & sand being thrown up on the sheet metal from the tires.
The other reason I wanted the ability to easily remove them was to give them the occasinal coat of paint. The winter climate here is really hard on painted finishes especially the onse that get constantly blasted with road sand & salt mixture.
I don't want this to degenerate into a weld on vs. bolt on argument thread but at the end of the day I prefer bolt on for the following reasons:
1-Easy to remove if required.
2-No heat affected zone in your frame due to the welding process, thus no long term concerns. There are may good welders that can weld to the frame of a vehicle but your backing plates that weld to the frame must be properly designed and welded.
3-With proper U shapped brackets that wrap arround your frame, use existing holes and distribute the weight evenly the sliders are as strong or stronger than the weld on ones plus there is no chance of tearing the metal out of your frame where the slider is welded to it. I admit that this would be rare, but there were a few reported cases on TTORA of this happening. If you manage to twist your frame with the U shaped brackets the vehicle will most likely have other more severe problems.
If you do a search on TTORA there are lots of discussions about weld on vs. bolt on.
At the end of the day for my needs I will never have anohter weld on slider if I can help it. Not to say that welded sliders don't have their place.
Cheers :beer:,
p
DaveInDenver said:
Dirty Harry said:
Dirty Harry
Adventurer
I touch up my sliders after every trip that they get scratched up on. I just take a flap disk to the sliders and then put a piece of cardboard behind them so I don't get any overspray on the body. Seems to work out OK for me, but I understand your preference to using bolt on sliders.
gearbox
Adventurer
This past Friday, 8-10-07, I ordered a pair of bolt-on sliders with kickouts from CBI Off-Road. They should be done in two weeks and shipped across a few states to my apartment or held at the shipping facility. Then it's a matter of checking mating surfaces, priming/painting, and mounting.
I need to buy Hammered Rust-Oleum and a few C-clamps.
Should I start a new "build-up" thread once I start?
I need to buy Hammered Rust-Oleum and a few C-clamps.
Should I start a new "build-up" thread once I start?