Power Wagon vs F250 Tremor

McCarthy

Is it riding season yet?
Ok so that truck with the trans problem is not the ZF 8 speed. As far as the 7.3 issue, I’m. It going to argue with a ford fan boy online, waste of time.


Says the dodge fan boy, okay there buddy. There's nothing fan boy about supporting the trucks that work better for my use. (and 99% of fleets in northern Canada, so not just me). If I wanted to put a roof top tent on my truck and take pictures of the sunset, i'd buy whatever looks cool. Other than that, there's a reason everything is Ford up here.

Again, like I said, I don't follow dodge's, didn't know they're now an 8 speed.

Also, I don't care what people think on the internet, I base my purchase decision and brand loyalty off of what I see in the real world in some of the harshest conditions this side of the arctic circle. Not what "overlanders" say they like. Hell, and I can dig the thread up if you haven't seen it, a guy who owns a Ram 5500 on here was saying it was fascinating the further north into Canada he drove, the more and more Ford's out numbered everything else, especially work trucks.
 
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Grassland

Well-known member
Let us know what you end up with, so I can live vicariously through you.

Personally I'd skip the Tremor, as they don't offer it on a Supercab which makes little sense to me, and just build up an XLT trim truck with some aftermarket suspension and tires.

I'm biased to Ford as I am more familiar with them and the aluminum body panels.

I had considered both Ram 1500 in 13/14, and a Tradesmen Power Wagon in 2018. No tradesmen PWs existing locally at the time factored in a lot.
 

Todd n Natalie

OverCamper
I had considered both Ram 1500 in 13/14, and a Tradesmen Power Wagon in 2018. No tradesmen PWs existing locally at the time factored in a lot.
I don't understand the Tradesman Power Wagon.

In Canada anyway, every time I built both a regular power wagon and a tradesman power wagon on the configuration, it cam out at the same price?

Added zero options to the PW and only added walnut brown to the Tradesman ($245) and the Power Wagon package ($7,995)

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jadmt

ignore button user
I don't understand the Tradesman Power Wagon.

In Canada anyway, every time I built both a regular power wagon and a tradesman power wagon on the configuration, it cam out at the same price?

Added zero options to the PW and only added walnut brown to the Tradesman ($245) and the Power Wagon package ($7,995)

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in the USA the tradesman makes a lot of sense. I could have bought one OTD for $45500 could not get a PW for that. I went back and forth between the two but the PW won out mostly because the PW seats and steering wheel are nicer :). I do like the Tradesman grill a lot better tho.


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phsycle

Adventurer
in the USA the tradesman makes a lot of sense. I could have bought one OTD for $45500 could not get a PW for that. I went back and forth between the two but the PW won out mostly because the PW seats and steering wheel are nicer :). I do like the Tradesman grill a lot better tho.


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Yes, last year, I could’ve bought a PW tradesman for $40k. Several listed for that price all around the country. That was a deal.
 

Riversdad

Active member
After having driven nothing but Rams for the last 29 years, I ordered a 2021 Tremor 7.3 on Friday. I have always liked my Rams but it came down to load capacity and I couldn't get past that dial transmission. It will be our trip vehicle and will carry a light camper.
 

UglyViking

Well-known member
So I went through a similar process back from the early part of the year till July. I ended up with a 2019 Ram 2500 Cummins. I liked the Ford a lot, in the end some of the pluses on the Ram are what won me over.

  • The Ram just seems to be a simpler platform overall. From suspension to engine it just seems more straightforward to work on.
  • Ram has rear coils on the rear, better articulation and better ride overall.
  • Lots of off road manufactures build stuff for the Ram, AEV makes some baller bumpers, sweet fender flares that while require cutting mean you can fit 41s with like 2-3" lift up front and maybe an inch rear.
  • Open the engine bay of both and you'll see the massive amount of space the Ram has to work, the inline 6 will be easier to work on yourself than the v8 ford has. (again I'm comparing diesel to diesel here, so YMMV here)
  • Steel body, I'm sure I'm making something of nothing but I've seen those ford trucks in accidents, and they tear bad. Assuming I hit something smaller on the trail you're just more likely to puncture and tear in the aluminum than the steel I think. This may not be accurate, and the Ford does feel solid but I leaned with the known
I think they both look like great trucks. I love the look of the Ford, and if the Ram gives me a bunch of trouble I'll probably sacrifice the off road capability and move over to the Ford, or a wrangler/gladiator.

The interior of both is nice, although the Ram does edge it out, and I feel your money goes further in the world of Ram.

Either way, I think that you can't really go wrong either way. The Ford F-250 def has a higher payload than the Ram 2500, but the 350/3500
are a lot closer. Personally, I think the non-powerwagon can be built up to me pretty darn close, if not better, performing than the power wagon. A lot of people upgrade most of the power wagon suspension and protection, so you're really just getting the winch and the swaybar. You could probably mod both easily to fit your 2500. You can't add the powerwagon winch to the cummins sadly, intercooler is in the way.
 

Pnwfullsize

Active member
That being said, a Tradesman Power Wagon is Green does look good. Too bad you can't get that color on a normal power wagon. But, 65K for a tradesman? Ouch.

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I just read you can order the power wagon in that color now. Additional $100 was what i read.
 

Pnwfullsize

Active member
So I went through a similar process back from the early part of the year till July. I ended up with a 2019 Ram 2500 Cummins. I liked the Ford a lot, in the end some of the pluses on the Ram are what won me over.

  • The Ram just seems to be a simpler platform overall. From suspension to engine it just seems more straightforward to work on.
  • Ram has rear coils on the rear, better articulation and better ride overall.
  • Lots of off road manufactures build stuff for the Ram, AEV makes some baller bumpers, sweet fender flares that while require cutting mean you can fit 41s with like 2-3" lift up front and maybe an inch rear.
  • Open the engine bay of both and you'll see the massive amount of space the Ram has to work, the inline 6 will be easier to work on yourself than the v8 ford has. (again I'm comparing diesel to diesel here, so YMMV here)
  • Steel body, I'm sure I'm making something of nothing but I've seen those ford trucks in accidents, and they tear bad. Assuming I hit something smaller on the trail you're just more likely to puncture and tear in the aluminum than the steel I think. This may not be accurate, and the Ford does feel solid but I leaned with the known
I think they both look like great trucks. I love the look of the Ford, and if the Ram gives me a bunch of trouble I'll probably sacrifice the off road capability and move over to the Ford, or a wrangler/gladiator.

The interior of both is nice, although the Ram does edge it out, and I feel your money goes further in the world of Ram.

Either way, I think that you can't really go wrong either way. The Ford F-250 def has a higher payload than the Ram 2500, but the 350/3500
are a lot closer. Personally, I think the non-powerwagon can be built up to me pretty darn close, if not better, performing than the power wagon. A lot of people upgrade most of the power wagon suspension and protection, so you're really just getting the winch and the swaybar. You could probably mod both easily to fit your 2500. You can't add the powerwagon winch to the cummins sadly, intercooler is in the way.

You're also getting the gearing and lockers in the power wagon.
 

Regcabguy

Oil eater.
Let us know what you end up with, so I can live vicariously through you.

Personally I'd skip the Tremor, as they don't offer it on a Supercab which makes little sense to me, and just build up an XLT trim truck with some aftermarket suspension and tires.

I'm biased to Ford as I am more familiar with them and the aluminum body panels.

I had considered both Ram 1500 in 13/14, and a Tradesmen Power Wagon in 2018. No tradesmen PWs existing locally at the time factored in a lot.
The aluminum bodies yield a great crumple zone for rear endings. They collapse. The tremors need Carli's upgrade.
 

docster

Member
I really want a PW I’m thinking. Anyone ever regret getting Ram box or wish they had gotten it? It’s definitely going to be the new Olive green, but with bronze wheels. I won’t go bigger than 35s ever and probably leave stock for some time with the exception of a tune, if I can find one, and some air ride bags with daystar cradles.

Do we know when the true next gen HD Ram is coming? Current is only a partial refresh.
 

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