Propane tank....???

gasman

Adventurer
I live in Quebec and I've been looking the last few days at the regulations for transportation of fuel and propane.

Quebec regulations on Fuel

Roads (Fueld and Propane
Maximum 150 kg (330 pounds)
Maximum container weight: 30 Kg (66 pounds)

Tunnels
Fuel: 30 Liters
Propane: Maximum 2 bottles of a capacity of 46 liters

Ferries
Fuel: Maximum 25 liters
Propane: 2 Bottles and a total of 65 liters.

Transportation of Propane: It's illegal to carry propane inside a vehicle unless the space in which it is carried is properly ventilated from the outside. A bottle carried on the outside rear of a vehicle must be protected by extending the bumper using a material that has a resistance equal or greater than the bumper. Propane tank can not be carried on the top, anywhere past the front axle and it may not extend outside the sides of a vehicle.

i forgot about this thread oops.. the ontario code also says
a container located on the exterior of a vehicle shall,
not project beyond the sides of the vehicle,

not be installed on the roof of a vehicle, unless accepted by the authourity having jurisdiction,

when located on the A frame of a vehicle designed to be towed, be mounted as close to the body of the vehicle as possible.
 

R_Lefebvre

Expedition Leader
Oh, so I can't mount it at the front of my A-frame tongue? :( I think I might end up mounting it to the front wall of my trailer, towards the side. That way I don't even have to move it to set up camp. Just open the side door, and hook up the hose. The problem I see with this, is when I have my dirtbike across the tongue, I'm not sure there would be clearance to the tank...

Can I get a ready made bracket for a 5lb Manchester tank somewhere?
 

Robert Bills

Explorer
Here are some photos of the Manchester ASME horizontal tank on my '46 Bantam T3-C trailer:

Found it used at a trailer repair shop for $50.

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saltamontes

Observer
*if* you store a propane tank horizontally that is designed to be stored vertically, make sure its relief valve it at the top of the cylinder (so relief valve opening expels gas not liquid lp).

http://www.hackneys.com/travel has a great pdf about propane tanks/valves/fittings/filling/etc
 
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gasman

Adventurer
Oh, so I can't mount it at the front of my A-frame tongue? :( I think I might end up mounting it to the front wall of my trailer, towards the side. That way I don't even have to move it to set up camp. Just open the side door, and hook up the hose. The problem I see with this, is when I have my dirtbike across the tongue, I'm not sure there would be clearance to the tank...

Can I get a ready made bracket for a 5lb Manchester tank somewhere?

no,, you are good to go on the tounge.. as close to the body of the trailer as possible..

i talked to my cousin bout mounting them above the fenders on the side of my trailer and he said thats a no go.. he says '' inside the frame '' is the acceptable method, i gotta go with his answer cuz they do own a propane co, i can tell you from experiance that the codes are sometimes open for interpretation, one inspector will tell you one thing and the next guy gives you a completely different explanation of the same code,, it makes sense to me though , where is the safest spot on the trailer ? its not gonna get hit on the tounge, maybe a rock or too but thats it,,
 

chasespeed

Explorer
Yeah, that about boils it down here to.

Vehicle mounted ASME tanks are pretty tough, and have protection for all fittings.

Just keep an eye out, when looking for them, that you dont acquire a motor fuel tank. Those are a liquid withdrawal tank, and wont do you any good for vapor service.

I keep a 33# Fork Lift tank, in my truck(my service truck). I converted for vapor OR liquid service. What I like about the FL tanks, they are set-up to be stored vertically, OR horizontally.

Just make sure the relief valves are CLEAN, and have the covers(if equipped), and have room to vent if it comes to that.

Chase
 

kenallwine

Adventurer
Here is what I did for my 10lb tank. For padding and to make the fit a little tighter, I used some low compression foam tape

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UNI

Adventurer
Kenallwine,

Hey just a thought, where your propane tank frame is henged (The open square tubing) you might be able to use Stock Cap square tube plastic plugs, it might help water from building up in the tube.

Great Propane Frame Build,

Alan
 

kenallwine

Adventurer
Well... we are back from our three week, 3,221 mile road trip. The tank bracket worked like a charm. I had a little rust where the water got in but not too bad. I wasn't able to source enough of the square end plugs before we left so I was stuck with the open ends. The only issue I had was on the adhesive of the closed cell foam tape. It would have a tendancy to move while taking the tank on and off. I also have to believe that was partially to do with the temperatures we were in +90F the whole time.
 

gasman

Adventurer
i forgot about this thread.. heres what im doing for now , i can fit 4 of the jerrycans plus the tank, or water jugs, batteries, whatever ? depending on the trip i load the basket differently but always strap the tank in the middle, i will be welding a bracket so that i can use better straps, gotta figure somthing out there???
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spencyg

This Space For Rent
Here is what I did for my 10lb tank. For padding and to make the fit a little tighter, I used some low compression foam tape

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You, Sir, are about to find your design stolen and incorporated into the propane tank storage solution for Boomer...

Excellent concept.

Thanks!
 

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