Question about RR axles

nickyill

Observer
Unless you like vibrations and blowing up driveshafts, you will need to get radius arms for a 3" lift to correct the pinion angle as well as getting a dc driveshaft. There is a reason why OME's lift is around 2".

Thanks for the opinion - but as I am riding on a 3" RTE lift with a stock drive shaft, no vibes, and stock radius arms - I think I'll take my experience with this set up for the last several years as all the evidence I need for my truck. I wheel it monthly, drive it long distances to do so and use it as a daily driver. Can't vouch for everyone's experience, only my own.
 

Mike_rupp

Adventurer
Thanks for the opinion - but as I am riding on a 3" RTE lift with a stock drive shaft, no vibes, and stock radius arms - I think I'll take my experience with this set up for the last several years as all the evidence I need for my truck. I wheel it monthly, drive it long distances to do so and use it as a daily driver. Can't vouch for everyone's experience, only my own.

That's what everybody says. I'm sure that your tolerance for vibes is much, much higher than mine. Consider your u-joints to be on borrowed time.

I rode around for about 5k miles on a 3" lift with the factory front driveshaft and radius arms and thought that there were no vibes. Based on the fact that my brother kept nagging me, I bought new RTE radius arms and a Tom Woods DC front driveshaft and couldn't believe how smooth it was after I installed them. Please don't take offense, but you have your head in the sand.
 

nickyill

Observer
Mike - seriously, who are you trying to impress? You don't know me or my truck - sounds like you don't even know your truck, you need your brother to tell you what to do with it. Go troll on DWeb...
 

Mike_rupp

Adventurer
Is it that hard to admit that you are wrong?

I was quick to admit that I was wrong in thinking that the stock driveshaft and radius arms would work properly with a 3" lift. Why is it so hard for you?

Please let me know how I was name calling. I simply stated that you are wrong. I never called you a name.

That seems to be the trump card for people who are wrong. You get backed into a corner and rather than deal with the issue at hand, suspension geometry, you resort to pulling the trump card out and saying that someone was name calling. That is pathetic.
 

gjackson

FRGS
Okay gents, let's not go down the spiral. I guess everyone has their own tolerance for suspension vibes.

cheers
 

muskyman

Explorer
The simple fact is that Mike is 100% correct here.

A 3" lift with the stock radius arms and front driveshaft is not a great combination.

You are ignoring the vibes at this point because they are there for sure...thats just how it works.

I know a number of people running around on 3" lifts with stock arms and compared to how a well set up truck drives they drive like crap.
 

nickyill

Observer
Drive it everyday, everywhere. No complaints. Had it for 5-6 years since it was stock with air suspension and I have no complaints. Your results may differ. Pretty funny being told I don't know how my own truck rides. I'll give you the courtesy of determining how your truck feels on the road.
 

muskyman

Explorer
Drive it everyday, everywhere. No complaints. Had it for 5-6 years since it was stock with air suspension and I have no complaints. Your results may differ. Pretty funny being told I don't know how my own truck rides. I'll give you the courtesy of determining how your truck feels on the road.

I think what both of us are saying is you may not be a good judge of a smooth running rig.

People always think they have a smooth runner until they drive one that really is.

The same issue happens with people who think that a D1 handles well and then they drive a DII and see that the D1's sway all over the place.

Dont take offence just understand that there is still improvements to be made in your rig, thats actually a good thing I would think.
 

Snagger

Explorer
OK, well that's not what I expected - I had believed that the braking system was the same over there as here, at least for commonality's sake, but mainly because Discoverys are seen as more prestigious than in the UK, and so seemed more likely to have the higher spec equipment. I have an early 200Tdi front axle (1991, I think), and that's dual circuit, so it seems bizarre that the later US models were down graded with single circuit, unless they fitted the bigger Defender brake callipers and discs (which are single circuit on each axle), but that limits the choice of alloy wheels to Boost and Deep Dish, and I thought you had others out there too.

As for the diffs, yes, the CT RRCs would have been pretty beaten up, but it was a pretty extreme competition. I'm not decrying uprated axles, I'm just trying to back the argument that it's worth settling into the new vehicle first and then deciding how to alter it, and that rushing out to buy new axles or diffs and shafts is not urgently necessary. Sorry - I didn't write it clearly.
 

Nonimouse

Cynical old bastard
Hang on Gentlemen, one man's vinegar is another man's wine. Each to his own, don't knock it 'til you've tried it.

In my humble experience of RRC's which to be honest is fairly broad, you can have a two inch lift that rips the hell out of your backside at 30mph and a three inch that drives smoother than pint of decent guiness.

I've seen three inch lifts that settle at less than two inches and two inch lifts that give three and a ride harder than hell.

As for changing the radius arms have you guys never come accross SuperPro castor correction bushes; 60k miles/3 year guarantee over here. Set of those and a decent double cardon and your mothers fathers son was christened Robert

Worth remembering we are all part of the International Brotherhood of the Land Rover and we can all add to that particular soup in one way or another.
If I wanted to read a snarly ********** fight, there's loads of other places I could go :wings:
 

Mike_rupp

Adventurer
Are you actually suggesting that caster correcting bushings are a good thing? This is some kind of setting the bait kind of post, right?
 

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