Jonathan Hanson
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Goodtimes, you're correct about payload and the vehicle frame . . .mostly. Historically, certain vehicles have suffered from serious frame issues even when not loaded to capacity. Mid-1980s General Motors trucks were notorious for frame cracks and broken motor mounts. The Arizona Game and Fish Department had something like 75 percent of their Chevrolet trucks certified as unsafe at one point. One truck was found with only a single mount holding the engine in. This was back in the days when Chevrolet told its customers "Oh, the frames are designed to flex."
So I consider proper frame design a bedrock foundation for an expedition vehicle. Toyota has been boxing the frames on Land Cruisers and trucks for decades, something American truck builders only recently adopted. (And even Toyota had some issues with the rear parts of frames on some Tacomas, I understand.) The Land Rover frame is a work of art in its intricately welded box section design (unfortunately of thin gauge steel and prone to rusting). Modern hydroforming techniques are making frames stiffer at no weight penalty.
Only a very few vehicles, such as the Unimog, are truly designed with frames that flex in a controlled manner.
So I consider proper frame design a bedrock foundation for an expedition vehicle. Toyota has been boxing the frames on Land Cruisers and trucks for decades, something American truck builders only recently adopted. (And even Toyota had some issues with the rear parts of frames on some Tacomas, I understand.) The Land Rover frame is a work of art in its intricately welded box section design (unfortunately of thin gauge steel and prone to rusting). Modern hydroforming techniques are making frames stiffer at no weight penalty.
Only a very few vehicles, such as the Unimog, are truly designed with frames that flex in a controlled manner.