Re-tread tires

[Redline]

I'm currently working on a magazine article about some TreadWright A/T-D (all-terrain) 265/75R16s so I can't "tell all" here...

But I can say that they didn't need an excessive amount of weight to balance, and at this early stage in the testing they seem to be fine. Currently they are being used on an F350 Power Stroke diesel pickup.

 

[Martinjmpr]

I want to read that article. I'm interested in finding out how the cost/benefit works out. If they are only $75 a tire, that's great, but if they only last 25,000 miles, then they're not a bargain, because I can spend $110/tire and get a 50,000 mile treadlife (my current BFG Rugged Trails have 52k and still quite a bit of tread left.)

 

[Redline]

It will be a few months as the magazine is a quarterly and the next issue is a few months away, but I will share and keep you posted when I can.

My biggest problem is going to be putting enough miles on the tires to test their wear. The tires are on my F350 which is pretty much a spare vehicle these days. I drive it occasionally or when I 'need' a big truck. I don't care to run 32s on my 4Runner (like 33s) but might have to later so I can get a few miles on the tires. Another option I may explore is putting the tires on a friend’s truck that sees more mileage (though I won't be able to track the wear and care as accurately).

James

I want to read that article. I'm interested in finding out how the cost/benefit works out. If they are only $75 a tire, that's great, but if they only last 25,000 miles, then they're not a bargain, because I can spend $110/tire and get a 50,000 mile treadlife (my current BFG Rugged Trails have 52k and still quite a bit of tread left.)

 

[WJinTRSC]

I want to read that article. I'm interested in finding out how the cost/benefit works out. If they are only $75 a tire, that's great, but if they only last 25,000 miles, then they're not a bargain, because I can spend $110/tire and get a 50,000 mile treadlife (my current BFG Rugged Trails have 52k and still quite a bit of tread left.)

Yeah, but can you buy a descent offroad tire like a BFG MT, which is very comparable in tread pattern to these at that price? And even if they only last 25K, most mud tires seem to avg. about 40K, but cost more than double the price. I think they're worth a shot. Perhaps this could be a good review for Overland Journal???!!

 

[stomperxj]

Yeah, but can you buy a descent offroad tire like a BFG MT, which is very comparable in tread pattern to these at that price? And even if they only last 25K, most mud tires seem to avg. about 40K, but cost more than double the price. I think they're worth a shot. Perhaps this could be a good review for Overland Journal???!!

BFG Muds are $144 ea at tirerack.com plus shipping:

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=BFGoodrich&tireModel=Mud-Terrain+T%2FA+KM&partnum=105QR5MTAKMRWL&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes&place=0

4 BFG muds for $666.52 shipped versus 4 OTR muds to my door for $323.16...

I have buddies that have gotten over 25k with the retreads. They are a great bargain IMO. I didnt balance them and I mounted them myself to save money...

So in other words, I agree

 

[Desertoutpost]

Okay quick question...

I called and spoke to a guy and he asked me if I wanted to wait for a "Matched Set" from a new run starting next week, could someone explain to me what he meant, I did not have the time to pick his brain. I can make assumptions but if you know could you tell me. Also how do the green diamonds do on our roads in Socal area, will they wear faster? Thanks, exploring options, I just do not know if I want retreads????

 

[BKCowGod]

A matched set means all four tire "donors" would be the same brand. Only really important if you want the logos to match or if you really care about the triple ply sidewall on BFG's. I wanted a matched set, so I ended up with four wrangler carcasses

 

[CA-RJ]

Bringing this thread back up--

Looks like Hi Tec is now TreadWright Inc. They offer a Goodyear MT/R tread pattern now. I'm wondering if anyone is running it? I can get 5 of them (285/75/16) for $646 shipped to my door. New MT/R's are $200+ in that size.

 

[Bella PSD]

What...no 35" retread tires!!

Louie

 

[BIGdaddy]

i've had three different sets of "treadwright" re-treads.

2 on my grand vitara, mud and AT.

and 1 on my 4runner, mud.


all three were around 30-31", and all were not green-diamond.

I took all three off-road and they we're great.

I drove all three sets on daily drivers, and they wore evenly, with little to no weight used to balance them

I did get a bit of chunking on a particularly hard trail, but any semi-soft tire would have (and did) behave similarly.

I would absolutely (and probably will) get them again for my jeep when the stock goodyears wear out.

:arabia:

edit: i didn't keep my suzuki or my 4runner lon enough to see the 25k mark, but after about 5k on the suzuki, i had really no noticable wear....

 

[barnstormer]

FWIW, the Treadwright (Hi-Tec) retreads on the Dodge W350 Diesel truck I just bought from a friend (Cummins...HEAVY) went to Honduras and back a year or so ago, and still look great. The roads from Colorado to Honduras and back are everything from smooth pavement to horrible, rutted mud to mile after mile of hard washboards. The truck is heavy empty, and was loaded with a bunch of stuff and a couple folks.

If that doesn't give them a good recommendation for an adventure/expedition vehicle, I don't know what would.

They are made on a Michelin E rated carcass.

Just my .02.


Brian

 

[jh504]

Peterson's 4wheel & offroad did a test and write up on hi tech about a year ago. They abused the tires offroad and aired down and seemed to have nothing but good to say.

 

[jim65wagon]

I'm currently working on a magazine article about some TreadWright A/T-D (all-terrain) 265/75R16s so I can't "tell all" here...
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What happened with this? Did it publish? Can I read it? You're so darned secretive with you tire junkie knowledge...:bowdown:

 

[Redline]

Jim,

It did publish in the PSR (Power Stroke Registry) a quarterly subscription only magazine I write for. Actually I had two TreadWright articles publish recently in the PSR, one on TreadWright’s ATD all-terrain treads (Summer 08), and another about TreadWright’s crazy aggressive D-Muds (Fall 08). Of course the magazine has copyright protection... But I have requested PDFs from the PSR for TreadWright to put on their website for all to see. Hopefully this will occur soon.

The ATD treads were pulled from my F350 after the initial test, as the truck doesn't see many miles, then mounted on a Chevy Duramax. An article was written for maxxTORQUE (G.M. Diesel quarterly Mag.) and we are keeping track of the wear and doing rotations to see how they last.

I can share that as of the last rotation in July the ATD tires had 10,200-miles on them with:

10/32" fronts
11/32" rears

They started with 16/32" tread depth, so roughly 1,700-miles per 1/32" of wear.

The Chevy Duramax owner who is logging the miles is a 'typical' truck owner, meaning he is not overly concerned with tire PSI nor easy on the accelerator. He also pulls a heavy travel trailer on occasion. At our last rotation in my shop the tires came in with about 65-PSI in them, pretty high when the truck is unladen.

I would really like to try TreadWright's new AT-B tread design, tires that look VERY similar to BFG ATs. But they don't make tires in 255/85R16 and I don't like to run anything else. 285s are too wide and 265s are shorter than I prefer. Maybe I should buy a new pickup with some 17 or 18-inch wheels...

How's that for some info

I'm currently working on a magazine article about some TreadWright A/T-D (all-terrain) 265/75R16s so I can't "tell all" here...
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What happened with this? Did it publish? Can I read it? You're so darned secretive with you tire junkie knowledge...:bowdown:

 

[jim65wagon]

As always, above standard! Let's see...at 1700 miles per...that's about 22000 miles if you let them wear down to 3/32s and they wear at a same rate throughout their life....probably typical mileage for typical owners. Thanks again James!