RV & Camper Prices vs Inflation

anume

New member
Results for the RV Industry Association’s June 2024 survey of manufacturers found that total RV shipments ended the month with 25,308 units, an increase of 5.0% compared to the 24,095 units shipped in June 2023. The RVIA data on their website shows increased units shipped each month during 2024 compared to the same months in 2023. So there's more inventory and the manufactures are not slowing down.

This higher or increasing manufacturing volume trend is interesting to think about in comparison to the decreased registrations and sales data I noted last month. I've also read that RV loan underwriting volume is down. It would seem anecdotally that more units combined with decreasing sales will put downward pressure on prices, both new and used.
 

ThundahBeagle

Well-known member
Been eyeing the boat market due to my lake house plan to get a sense of Whats going on. The larger 25-29ft bow riders are starting to get dumped on the market. Many have been on the market for a month or more already. I haven’t noticed pricing drops just yet. But inventory is climbing in the used market and thats what I’m eyeing.

27ft sea ray i/0 bow rider running the 8.2gm v8. Is likely my target but the house comes first and thats still tbd

Housing market stalled here, I think. A 3000 sq foot residence with 3 beds and 3 baths, plus bonus rooms (den, craft room), heated 2 car garage and workbench, 4 or 5 fireplaces, sitting on an even acre, asking just over half a million bucks has been sitting for 2 months over the summertime. During COVID, that would have been snatched up at 550 to 600, maybe even before the first open house.

Anecdotal to be sure. But the more of these anecdotes you see, the more they become statistics, the more it becomes data.
 

anume

New member
What price discounts are you seeing, if any, from dealers or sellers? Did you recently get a discount on a unit or are prices staying elevated? Are prices coming down back to pre pandemic levels or...?

I see advertised discounts in the 20 to 30 percent or more range from dealers on big brands or some kind of cash discount from smaller manufacturers. Are these just normal end of the summer sales or something bigger than historical norms in your opinion?
 

Ozarker

Well-known member
It's clear that most have no idea of late 20th and early 21st century economic theory, but they adopt the hearsay spouted off by political pundits from their tribe.



Asking the question, what social factors influence inflation, Copilot provides this-
Consumer Behavior
: Increased consumer spending can lead to higher demand for goods and services.
  1. Labor Market Dynamics: Tight labor markets and wage pressures can drive up costs for businesses, which often pass these costs onto consumers in the form of higher prices2. This is particularly evident when there are labor shortages or increased bargaining power among workers.
  2. Social Inflation: This can lead to higher costs for businesses, which may then increase prices to cover these expenses.
  3. Public Sentiment and Expectations: Inflation can also be influenced by public sentiment and expectations.
These social influences, combined with economic factors, create a complex environment that can drive inflation.
Let’s focus on other social influences that contribute to inflation:

  1. Consumer Confidence: When consumers feel optimistic about the economy, they tend to spend more, which can drive up demand and prices.
  2. Cultural Trends: Shifts in cultural preferences, such as increased demand for sustainable products, can lead to higher prices for these goods due to limited supply and higher production costs.
  3. Population Growth: An increasing population can lead to higher demand for housing, food, and other essentials, pushing prices up.
  4. Technological Advancements: While technology can reduce costs, it can also create new demand for products and services, influencing prices.
  5. Global Events: Social and political events worldwide, such as conflicts or trade agreements, can impact supply chains and prices.


Now, my comments; If you paid $28,000.00 for an $18,000.00 toy, you contributed to this inflation.

Is it price gouging when, within a short period of time, most participating in an economy raise their prices?

You can thank your local billionaire and Wall Street for kick starting the post Covid greed. It was not necessary, it was devised and implemented by financial strings, not so much by political strings; but I suspect Lenoard Leo is at the table with the billionaires. The economy is a weapon for power and the middle-class is losing.
 
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Gravelette

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We're probably stuck with the 20% inflation from COVID, hard to see anyone actually lowering prices. On the other hand, inflation is down to about 2.5% and the economy is strong by all measures. There are over 7 million dead from COVID and it could have been much worse. It's unfortunate we have short memories and don't realize how lucky we've been.
 

gator70

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We're probably stuck with the 20% inflation from COVID, hard to see anyone actually lowering prices. On the other hand, inflation is down to about 2.5% and the economy is strong by all measures. There are over 7 million dead from COVID and it could have been much worse. It's unfortunate we have short memories and don't realize how lucky we've been.
Inflation did not come from Covid.
 

Ozarker

Well-known member
Biggest RV dealer in my neck of the woods is Wilder RV, they have been running TV ads which is unusual, showing prices being slashed by $10,000.00+

Granted, some seem to be a hail sale and minor damage, some is clearing inventory.
 

Todd780

OverCamper
Inflation did not come from Covid.
But greed did. Prices rose insanely during the covid / chip shortage years. MSRP on 2024 F150 similar to my 2022 is 15K higher. That's one example. RV's went nuts too. They've come back down to reality. But, vehicles have not yet.
 

chet6.7

Explorer
It's inflation and greed.
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rruff

Explorer
IMO the money printing created the ability to be greedier. Prices for everything went through the roof during covid.
The covid laws and the excessive money printing response, along with the asinine way in which it was "dispersed"... created all sorts of supply and demand disruptions.

Who are the greedy ones you are speaking of? Anyone in the business of making and selling things, who suddenly has a bunch of new customers with cash in hand, and a 2 year backlog, would have to be a complete moron not to raise prices. That isn't greed, that's just reality... the way markets naturally respond.

Also, this was an obvious boom scenario which would naturally be followed by a bust. You have to make money when you can.
 

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