hey guys so i found this girl the other day and im trying to work the old man to sell it. so im trying to figure out the year? the guages are still in the center of the dash. did some one add the lights in the fenders? what kinda price would you put on it? it sat in a barn for 20 years untill the owner sold the land than it was on. So he pulled it out and redid the brakes and got her going again. last tags date 03 but i was told it was still driven around the ranch about 2 years ago when the battery died. i would love to have it. Its bucket front seats, one bench and 2 smaller fold downs in the rear. so i take it its the 9 seater not the larger "bus" 12 seater they made.
Series 2???? HELP
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Wander
Expedition Leader
The headlamps on the wings were added later,which is fairly common. Those appear to be 69 era wings as the headlamps look to be sticking out instead of flush mounted, the nickname of this era is "bug eye". Overall is looks to be a IIa 109 station wagon trim. I would guess it is a 64-66 but it is hard to tell right off (at least for me). What is the last digit of the serial #? It should be a letter and that will help narrow down the age. I spotted a kmh speedo which would indicate it is not North American spec but with LHD it would not be UK or one of it's colonies so maybe Central or South America since it's now in Texas and has been for a while. The paint also makes me think that maybe it's from north Africa or the middle east and was owned and brought back by someone in the oil industry. Sorry to be so vague but dating these can be hard to do as they are often the vehicular version of your Grandfathers axe in which the head has been replaced twice and the handle thrice.
JackW
Explorer
Definitely 1966 or before - windshield motors on the windshield and push button starter. I agree with the 1964-66 guess but it could be a 1962-63. Not much difference between the years except for the suffix on the transmission which will tell you first gear ratio. Looks like a lot of work but also a pretty nice project. Good Luck - if it was me I'd try offering around $3500 if it runs, $2000 if it doesn't.
So I just went and talked to the guys son. Said they started it 6months ago. It's a 62 the guy said. Got new brakes, carb, alternator. I told him if I can get in it and drive it around than Ill be willing to go as high as 4k. Ill hear back by the end of the day today from the guy. Hope y'all are ready for a expedition build thread if I get it. I have delt alot w older chevys, fords, buicks.(1920-1960s) but never a land Rover, anything I need to look closer at besides the tylocal stuff???
Wander
Expedition Leader
Main issues are chassis and bulkhead-those are rust prone as they are steel-the rest is aluminum. If there are bad rust in either you'll be in or a lot of work as you will have to take it apart to get the bulkhead off. The bulk of it is still available after market and there are sources for the things no longer being made. Get under it with a small hammer and/or large screw driver and start tapping. You want to hear a hollow ring-if you get a muffled thud it's rusty if the screwdriver goes through...well that's kind of obvious! To check the bulkhead (we call it a cowl and it's the area below the windshield to the chassis) check around the door hinges and the foot well-above and below. What is the engine- gas or diesel? Either will be SLOW but that is part of the charm. Have you ever driving an old farm tractor-this will be very similar-slow, low geared, long throws on the shifter. 1st to 2nd is not synchro'd so you have to double clutch it . It is all very basic and relatively easy to get to, the entire thing can be taken apart with basic tools and a lot of PB Blaster. As for value-if the rust situation is good then your estimate would be a good buy.
Dogscout
New member
Flat Valence makes it a SII not a SIIA
The flat panel below the grill is the indicator of a SII 1959 - 1961. The next thing to check is the water pump. The SII engine was unique to that model and the water pump is no longer available. The rebuild kits for a SIIA can work as long as the casting is in good shape. Other issues are that engine bearings are no longer available anywhere. Your best bet would be to replace that engine with a SIIA or some other if it is a SII. The multiple sets of headlights means that it could have been built up from a couple of rovers.
The flat panel below the grill is the indicator of a SII 1959 - 1961. The next thing to check is the water pump. The SII engine was unique to that model and the water pump is no longer available. The rebuild kits for a SIIA can work as long as the casting is in good shape. Other issues are that engine bearings are no longer available anywhere. Your best bet would be to replace that engine with a SIIA or some other if it is a SII. The multiple sets of headlights means that it could have been built up from a couple of rovers.
Explorer0863
Adventurer
Did you get it?
TeriAnn
Explorer
Companies tend to use up parts in the system rather than throw them away. The rest of the truck says it is an early IIA.
I think $4K is an OK price if the gearbox (no syncro in first & second, commonly start in second gear on level ground) and transfercase is working OK. $2.5K or so if problems with either gearbox or transfercase.
The frame appears to have a lot of surface rust. Go under with a screwdriver and do some poking where things seem rustiest.
Either way, there is a lot of restoration work to do. Exmoor trim has correct gray upholstery to redo the seats, door panels, and they just came out with a new kit for the kick panel upholstery. The rear light lenses are NLA so you will likely have to swap them out with SIIA rear light assemblies.
I suggest swapping in a new pair of rear axles, draining & replacing all the 90wt first thing.
You will want to get a copy of the owners manual. It not only tells you what everything does but it walks you through all the normal maintenance items step by step better than the workshop manual does (you will want both).
That front left wing looks like it may have bondo issues.
Lot of work if you want it to look nice.
evilfij
Explorer
It is correct for a 62 (or 63) as it has the later flat panel in front of the breakfast (early SII had galvy trim on the leading edge), it has SIIa vent levers (making it post 60/61) and it has the wire spoke wheel and independent wipers (making it 66 on down).
The wings are not bugeye wings, they are stock wings drilled for headlights.
The wings are not bugeye wings, they are stock wings drilled for headlights.
James86004
Expedition Leader
That Rover may have some overseas history.
The CD badge on the grille stands for Corps Diplomatique. Cars of diplomats had those in Europe and elsewhere. I think today the badges are part of the license plates in Europe, but when I was a kid and my father was at the US Embassy in Warsaw, we had a badge like that on the car.
The CD badge on the grille stands for Corps Diplomatique. Cars of diplomats had those in Europe and elsewhere. I think today the badges are part of the license plates in Europe, but when I was a kid and my father was at the US Embassy in Warsaw, we had a badge like that on the car.