Shotts' 1997 Lexus "Rock Crawler" buildup:
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goodtimes
Expedition Poseur
ShottsCruisers said:
The only thing that you are going to lose (not gain) by not lifting it more is increased break over angle. Not sure if this will be an issue or not.....depends on the trails you want to run with the lexus. I like your method of improving the approach/departure angles. Just chop off the excess....very cool. Now when do I get to see it on the trail? If you want a "real" test....we are running Hiway to Hell on Saturday....(hehehehe......just kidding.....sort of....we're running H2H, but you don't want your lexy up there)....but seriously, lets get that thing out in the dirt sometime. Martinez was alot of fun.
The BN Guy
Expedition Leader
I like the height! Good looking rig.
ShottsCruisers
Explorer
goodtimes said:
Thanks for the invite Brian. H2H....naw. I couldn't embarrass your little Jeep. Just think of how everyone would be drooling over the Lexus when I pull up to the trailhead.....well, at least until we began the trail. :smilies27
Have fun buddy. I'm stuck in town again.
ShottsCruisers
Explorer
clarkrw3 said:This is an older pic before some resent mods but you get the idea....
I guess I should start my own build up thread
:ylsmoke:
OK. Excellent. Thanks for posting. Do all the 6-inchers sit high like that in the front? I want to paste that pic and see how app and dep angles look though your pic looks like you were standing more to the front.
ShottsCruisers
Explorer
ShottsCruisers
Explorer
Wow, these are two sweet trucks (in their own/different ways). Using the photos I measured, in a VERY NON-SCIENTIFIC WAY, the approach and departure angles. Again, the photos don't offer a whole lot of accuracy.
Clark:
F: 47d
R: 39d (not including that rear light)
John:
F: 67d
R: 45d
Breakover? Who can tell by the pics though that 6" looks sweet.
I think Scott helped me make the right decision. Most of the things out here that stop the Cruisers are the F&R bumpers hitting obstacles and stopping their progess. I rarely scrape the sliders so I'm a bit less concerned about breakover. I'll stop now at this current lift height. THANKS EXPO WEST!
Clark:
F: 47d
R: 39d (not including that rear light)
John:
F: 67d
R: 45d
Breakover? Who can tell by the pics though that 6" looks sweet.
I think Scott helped me make the right decision. Most of the things out here that stop the Cruisers are the F&R bumpers hitting obstacles and stopping their progess. I rarely scrape the sliders so I'm a bit less concerned about breakover. I'll stop now at this current lift height. THANKS EXPO WEST!
clarkrw3
Observer
Yes...they both are very sweet.. :elkgrin: .now when are we going to get them on the trial together?? I posted better pics, I think we are much closer in the front then 20d but the rear you have me by a long shot. I didn't want to cut the frame (call me a sissy).
I thought i caught you online but now you are gone
I posted as attachments so that the size would be about the some as the pic you posted...I would measure the angles but I missplaced my protractor and forgot all that trig I knew at one time.
I thought i caught you online but now you are gone
I posted as attachments so that the size would be about the some as the pic you posted...I would measure the angles but I missplaced my protractor and forgot all that trig I knew at one time.
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ShottsCruisers
Explorer
clarkrw3 said:
Well, I sure like the look of that. Hmmm. Well, the good thing is I can go there if I decide to down the road. All the other needed parts will already be on.
For now, I'll stick with plan A. Other friends besides Scott told me more lift will make it tippier (especially without a wheel change or spacer) and they know I don't like tippy situations. Others might be able to handle it. Me? Probably not.
I can't imagine my app and dep angles with another 1.5 -inches. WOW!
clarkrw3
Observer
thanks
I think the slightly stiffer spring rate helps with the tippy part some and I am also running 1.25 spacers from Marlin. The main reason I put the spacers on was that it will allow me to stuff the rear wheels better (they don't hit on the inside of the wheel well.
BTW I love the look of the stubby rear bumper....we really got to get these black things out on the trail.
What did you deside on sliders? you should check out the step sliders in person!!
I think F angle is about the same, but I would give you 5d in the rear for sure maybe 10.
BajaTaco
Swashbuckler
ShottsCruisers said:... they know I don't like tippy situations. Others might be able to handle it. Me? Probably not.
John, I have seen you smiling on stuff that is waaay more tippy than the average guy would be comfy with. OK, well... maybe not smiling, but not crying anyway
I agree with the logic though.Clark - gawd that is a thing of beauty. NICE!
ShottsCruisers
Explorer
clarkrw3 said:Yes...they both are very sweet.. :elkgrin: .now when are we going to get them on the trial together?? I posted better pics, I think we are much closer in the front then 20d but the rear you have me by a long shot. I didn't want to cut the frame (call me a sissy).
I thought i caught you online but now you are gone
I posted as attachments so that the size would be about the some as the pic you posted...I would measure the angles but I missplaced my protractor and forgot all that trig I knew at one time.
We'll run for sure! I'd have it complete this weekend but without those upper rear arm adjusts I'm sunk. VIBRATION!
We need to bet :beer: on the ends though. I think my front has the big advantage and the rear a bit less. I also have the experience though of comparing my 1993 in person to ARB-uped 80's. Here's a shot of both the 1993 and 1997. The angle is amazing, plus we turned around the recovery loops on the LX which help even more. Gotta do that to the 1993!
