taco chaser said:
No offense, but I've seen a pair of $130 weld together units, TrailGear or Marlin, take a ton of abuse on my friends rig for the last 5 years.. He could have set the step angle flat and cut some plate, they would be lighter, cheaper, and just as strong.
that is not a fair comparison. That's like putting a M5 next to a Corolla and saying the Corolla wins because it's cheaper. Sure it wins on price, but there is more too it.
It's a totally different market. If you want to DIY, that's awesome and there are great options... for some people, time is money and they just want to focus on other things so finished, bolt on sliders are a good choice.
For a fair comparison, tell me how much it would cost you to make
the same product as Slee offers?
Plus the weight of 4 - 6 ft long x 3/16 square tube sliders and the fact of them being mounted anywhere around 7" to 11" off the frame, under the weight of the vehicle this acts as a big lever twisting on your thin wall 95 - 04 frame or C-channeled thin wall rivet frame 05+ and this can result in weld on units even with frame plates and gussets to dent, pull, and stress crack the frame.
so the leverage of $150 tube sliders on welded on (in comparison) tiny scab plates will be better for the frame than Slee's full length bracing?
Leverage is leverage and the weight difference of the slider isn't going to tear your frame up, it is the design of the mounting because once you start dropping onto them or leveraging off of them, I would guess a full frame brace is much better than several 1.5" dia welds going into one side of the frame.
I've seen cheap, round tube sliders on older, lighter Tacomas bend up and become useless. So, in that case, is doing it twice cheaper than once right, the first time? You don't want sherman tanks weighing you down but you don't want sliders that are inappropriate for the length and weight either.
Not starting an argument but just pointing out that price is relative and many times comparisons can be misleading.
DIY= more power to you. But offering a product for sale is a different story than a one-off made to satisfy yourself.