Snorkel = Snake Oil ?

[Superu]

If your vehicle "should" be offroad, then a snorkel will in most cases get it through deepwater.

If you're driving a vehicle that will need much more work than adding a snorkel, and perhaps extending some breathers, then its really not suited to being offroad in the first place.

That takes all the fun out of it!

If we all did just what we thought things "should" be capable of we'd miss out on lots of great achievements and exploration. Some of history's greatest explorers went out into the world with what they had available at the time. In many cases, hindsight would tell us they never "should" have tried, but I for one am happy they did!

Preparedness is important, but don't so easily dismiss those that may appear to not belong in an offroad environment just because they weren't purpose built for the task.

Many creative geniuses take what they have and make it into what they want or need. Some for financial reasons, some for the fun of doing it themselves.

Have fun out there, but leave room for the unconventional explorers. :088:

 

[madizell]

If your vehicle "should" be offroad, then a snorkel will in most cases get it through deepwater.

If you're driving a vehicle that will need much more work than adding a snorkel, and perhaps extending some breathers, then its really not suited to being offroad in the first place.

Such problems may be being petrol/gasoline/propane powered and using spark plugs, distributors etc, or any sort of electronicaly controlled fuel injection on a petrol or diesel.

Sorry if I'm opinionated, but its the truth out where I work/play

Sean

In all these years I didn't know using a gas engine in deep water was a no-no. Diesel is not the only power source that works in deep water, and as I have mentioned before, I have done 4 feet often, 5 feet in short busts, and have not done any particular water proofing other than to seal the joint line between distributor base and body on the Ford distributor because it is a 2-piece design. Never lost fire. Electronic fuel injection, no problems. Can't say why not.

 

[BiG BoB]

In my experience, I'm yet to find something that Diesel isn't better for in long distance / remote / expedition style work.

A well sealed ignition will work well in most circumstances, but... if a wire works loose, or a boot cracks, things can go wrong. Doing away with the ignition system and just running a diesel solves that problem.

Modern gas/petrol vehicles have heaps of electronic systems to make them run, my old 2H powered 60 has far less, and they are far less critical.

Theoretically, provided I can push / roll / tow start it, I dont even need a battery or alternator to get my vehicle out, its all mechanical

Sean

 

[ntsqd]

2H's have a mechanical fuel cut valve on the injection pump (ala most tractors) instead of the electric solenoid that is more common to passenger vehicles?

While those statistics don't help when you're the exception (Me: starter last weekend), statistically the failure of those 'fragile' secondary electrical/electronic systems is pretty remote. With extended warrenties being a major selling point in the last couple decades the OE's put a lot of time & effort into maximizing their various systems' inclusive MTBF ratings. I'd call 165,000 miles reasonable service life for my starter. It owed me nothing. Except one last start so that I could've replaced it at home.

 

[ntsqd]

This is a topic that could be debated 'till the cows come home, and still not be resolved. If you want a diesel, no more justification should be necessary. If you want a snorkel, no more justification should be necessary. Just please don't try to convince me when I want neither.

 

[sidewys xj]

Snorkel

I have to put my 10 cents in because i have a snorkel. I grew up in a farming/ranching family in Montana and the way I saw it was most all of are tractors had lifted air cleaners for dust. Now that tells you that for dusty conditons thay are a good idea the main reason I put my snorkel on is because I looked at as a true cold air intake. jeep 4.0s tend to run a little warm at times so what a good way to ram cooler air into your engine Yes the out side air mite be 100+ but it is still better than the air being 260+ under the hood

Just my 10cents

Luke

 

[Scenic WonderRunner]

OK........

While not getting any sleep last night.....I had a brainstorm!

How about...........

If you were not smart enough already to have installed a Snorkel..............

What if you had a large waterproof canvas or tarp that you could bungie and tie off around the whole front of your truck.

Would this work in a pinch..........as in just plowing all the water around the front of the truck, and your air intake can still breath just fine under the hood? Just don't go deeper than the breather intake.....just in case water comes up from below if you have to stop.


.......hum


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[Shadow-Warrior]

I know a lot of people that buy a Snorkel, think they can just go fording a river or creek just because they now have a snorkel, this is just not the case. If your going to be running in high water, you need to relocate the Front Differential, Front Actuator, the Rear Differential breather, E-Locker breather, Transsmission & Transfer Case Breathers. If you have a snorkel you need to do this Breather MOD too. I know some people have runied there trannys because they failed to relocate there breathers, it cost them over $6,000 in repairs. I started a thread on the FJCruiserforums site for doing just this along with a install thread for an ARB Safari Snorkel.

Here's a link if anyone is interested in relocating their breathers.

http://www.fjcruiserforums.com/forums/4x4-off-road-tech/29229-scuba-driver-transmission-transfer-case-rear-differential-e-locker-breather-mod.html

http://www.fjcruiserforums.com/forums/4x4-off-road-tech/41815-arb-safari-snorkel-cai-install-w-pics.html

http://www.fjcruiserforums.com/forums/4x4-off-road-tech/37115-arb-safari-snorkel-install-instructions-w-pics.html

 

[BIGdaddy]

reminds me of "tango and cash" for some reason.

 

[madizell]

How about...........

If you were not smart enough already to have installed a Snorkel..............

What if you had a large waterproof canvas or tarp that you could bungie and tie off around the whole front of your truck.

Would this work in a pinch..........as in just plowing all the water around the front of the truck, and your air intake can still breath just fine under the hood? Just don't go deeper than the breather intake.....just in case water comes up from below if you have to stop.


.......hum


.

This is done frequently. It helps to a degree, but requires that you keep moving, otherwise, water will fill around the tarp. Biggest benefit to this measure is keeping front wave splash off the radiator fan. Using a tarp doesn't negate the need for a snorkel. Routing your air intake to a point high under the hood, pointed away from splash sources, will help more than anything else if you can't or don't want to use a snorkel but also want to ford the occasional creek.