Snow, Moose and a Jeep in the Never Summer Mountains of Colorado.

lumpskie

Independent Thinker
So, I just got back from a fun few days in the Never Summer Mountains, near Walden CO. One of my wife's favorite animals is the moose and we try to get out on a "Moose Safari" to view them every year. We hadn't gotten out in a while so she surprised me with a birthday weekend away to do just that. On Friday, we packed and I topped off the fluids in the Waggy. This is the point where I FORGOT TO PACK A CAMERA! So... I was destined to take cell phone pictures on this trip. Saturday morning, we hit the road... into blizzard like conditions.



We took the western route, going west on I-70 then heading north on highway 40 through Winter Park. It snowed the entire way. Traffic backed up behind one person driving 15 mph all the way into Winter Park. I counted 25 cars stacked behind this person and they refused to pull off and let anyone pass. The switchback that normally take 30 minutes took over 2 hours to complete! But, no one got in an accident.



After turning onto highway 125, the road surface had turned from packed snow to ice. But, the Waggy didn't have any issues with traction. It was sure footed as ever.



So, after 5 hours of driving, we finally reached Walden. Apparently it had snowed all day here as well... snow was piled 3-4 feet high in between lanes in the road! I love this little town because it seems so authentic. I parked the Waggy and we checked into our hotel.



I took the opportunity to stretch my legs and grab a couple of pictures in town.





After a small break, we hit the road to State Forest State Park to get started looking for moose! The snow continued to fall on the drive.



I noticed this stack on the side of the road on the way out. Natural gas maybe? It was only flaming this one time was passed this spot...



Soon, we exited the road and headed onto the dirt.



As the suspension began to work, I started hearing a strange sound coming from the rear. I hopped out and found that the wheel wells were tightly packed with snow. I scraped it out as best I could and we continued on our way.



After about 20 minutes of driving, we ran across our first moose... 3 large Bulls. They were about 75 yards away from use, across a meadow. Of course, my cell phone has no optical zoom so pictures were almost useless. But I snapped a couple anyway.



It was starting to get pretty dark at this point, so we decided to head back to town. On the way out, we ran across two guys flagging us down on the trail. The told us that their 4 Runner was stuck and they needed help. Apparently, they were trying to walk out of the park and it was just above 0 degrees at that point. We told them that we'd help get them recovered and returned to their vehicle. At first sight, it looked like an easy job. But, when I looked closer, I could see that they were high centered.



So, I pulled out the shovel and a Mr. Emergency traction track and got to work. After digging around the tires, I could move the 4 runner back a bit. My wife put the track just in front of the front passenger tire and I rolled forward onto it. Then, I gave it some gas. I broke through about 2 feet of snow. I repeated the process one more time and they were out! Apparently, they were father and son. Dad had moved to CO and was getting into exploring the outdoors but the son was more of a city guy. They were planning on spending the night in their car if they couldn't find a way out of the park that night and he was scared out of his mind. He told my wife that we were "heros" and offered us some cash, which we turned down. It felt good to help them out and we were glad to see them heading back to down. Here's a picture I took of the scene the next day. The snow was well over a foot deep where that had parked and the heavy 4 runner just sank in!



At this point, it was was dark and cold. Time to head back to town!






EDIT: I forgot to mention...

Once we got back on pavement, it was pitch dark. As we were driving home, I caught a glimpse of some tail lights off of the left side of the road. We stopped, turned around and headed back. Sure enough, there was a brand new CRV that had slid off the road and down a 10ft embankment into the snow. We asked the owner if he needed help. He said "No, the tow truck is on the way". Reluctantly we, left him and headed back to town. After 10 minutes of driving Wifey and I discussed the fact that it was below zero and that we hadn't seen a tow truck heading in the opposite direction. As I turned my head to continue the conversation I can see something outside the passenger side window... it was a large shadowy figure. After a split second, I realized...MOOSE! I smoothly apply brake and, as I look back in front of me, I see another one run up onto the road. I gently guide the Waggy into the opposing lane of traffic, still braking as hard as I dare. I lay onto the horn and it spooks the moose enough for it to keep running and stay in "its lane". As the Waggy comes to a stop I can see that the first moose was a cow and the second was its large calf. They both run off the road at the first available opportunity and breath a sigh of relief. My wife and I return to the proper side of the roadway and also breath a sign of relief.
 
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Jacket

2008 Expedition Trophy Champion
It's a good feeling to bail someone out of a jam like that. I'm sure they learned a few lessons about being prepared.
 

Loubaru

Adventurer
Nice pictures/trip. The stack is called a flare and it burns off any excess hydrocarbons so they aren't just released to atmosphere. The building is either a pumping or compressor station, I would imagine they were doing some maintenance and had to vent something off or were having some type of upset like a seal leak.
 

unkamonkey

Explorer
Walden and Steamboat are interesting places. Steamboat was fun, 40 years ago. too commercial now. Walden is still a outdoor paridise
As far as I know, still has it's old ranch vibes. The only place I could find some well made deer hide gloves.
 

LR Max

Local Oaf
Yes. Its called an open flare. Most likely a tank battery flare. As the tanks fill up, they gotta push air filled with hydrocarbons out. Better to go to this thing vs. venting.

It looks like a legit open flare so its burning at about 95% efficiency, which is pretty good. It does look bad and scary but flaring is at least 95% better than venting.

Great trip BTW. Simple yet fun.
 
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High Country Nomads

Guest
You went right pass my place. When going over Berthoud and you got the 15mph guy in front of you, hit the gas and pass. You have 4 solid chances to do it otherwise it's a long slow ride. What FSR were you on? I'd like to go scout for Moose with my boy today.
 

lumpskie

Independent Thinker
Thanks for the replies and info you guys. You're right, that stack was burning really clean and it was really cool to see the light through the snow from about a mile away! And you're also right that Walden is still an authentic old ranching town... it was a really laid back vibe and to commercialism. I love it there. There is a whole network of forest service roads in that area and I think there are 200-300 miles of trails in the forests there. So there are lots of opportunities to explore. Big Mountain312, I'll PM you a couple of links to what I think are the best moose roads.
 

lumpskie

Independent Thinker
PART 2!

The next morning, we awoke to -15 degree weather! It was cold enough to make me cough if I breathed too quickly. I was worried that the carburated Waggy wouldn't be happy and wouldn't want to start. When I went outside to fire it up, I caught a quick picture of the ice crystals that were coating the truck. It was actually pretty cool looking.



To my surprise, the Waggy fired up without any hesitation! So, I let it warm up for 5 minutes before we hit the road. When I came back to the vehicle, I noticed this...



Since we were kind of out in the middle of nowhere, there was no way I could get a radiator repaired... or even buy a radiator. So, I drove to the local forest service office. The plan was to see if there opening the thermostat made a difference by driving. If it didn't, we could always ask the rangers where our best option would be for repair. After a 30 minute drive, we got to the office.



We went inside for 5 minutes or so, looking at the stuffed Moose and talking to local rangers. After that, I came back out to check on it... not a drop! Do you guys have any idea what's going on here? Anyway, I felt comfortable enough to keep exploring at this point. In the worst case, I had an extra gallon of 50/50 coolant I could use and, at 15 below, I wasn't too worried about the waggy getting too hot.

So, we re-entered State Forest State Park. The plan today was to get out as far as we could and just play around a little. It was a beautiful morning as we entered the park. It had snowed a foot or so in the last few days and most of the roads were unplowed. These are conditions where the Waggy really shines.


We started seeing moose almost immediately and ended up seeing 10 moose that day!




After driving around for a good while, we decided to let my son (Lil Chunky I call him) play for a bit. This would be his first time playing in the snow. He had a great time!


After that, we continued our drive, stopping and looking at moose, deer, coyotes and foxes along the way. Whenever possible, I would take the opportunity to park and grab some pictures.








At this point, evening was quickly approaching. And Lil Chunky was out of gas.



So, we turned around and started heading back towards the park entrance.
 

lumpskie

Independent Thinker
PART 3!

Because you are surrounded by mountains, the light changes quickly as the sun ducks behind the peaks. Here's a picture just a few minutes later.



We leisurely wandered back towards civilization and enjoyed the views






We even saw a few more moose on the way









It was a good day and hung out a bit in the hotel after we got back. Lil Chunky liked the fire and the Elk mounts on the wall.


After relaxing for a bit, we started packing. The plan was to leave first thing in the morning. In the morning, I went out to warm the Waggy up and was a little too rambunctious... Looks like we need to hit a hardware store to get a duplicate key made before we leave.


Luckily, there was a farm and ranch supply store within walking distance. It was -20 out so I'm glad it was only a mile away! Once we got there, they copied the key and it worked. Also, Lil Chunky got to do a little wrenching and cutting of his own. (Don't worry, I made him wear eye protection when he used the circular saw)



It was a proud Daddy moment and a great way to end the trip.
 
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High Country Nomads

Guest
great pictures, your kid looks like he's having some fun.
 

thethePete

Explorer
Sometimes when it gets cold enough dissimilar materials will contract at different rates. It was probably just weeping from a hose connection, or perhaps a gasketed surface. Look for a wet mark on the block or at the rad hose connections. If it didnt reoccur or get worse when warm, theres probably nothing major failed.
 

Lucky j

Explorer
Here to about the leak,

Somehow, I see this quite often with different cars. Seen it with my Nissan X-trail, my sister subaru, my jeeps. Seems to happen with new snow fall, not necessaraly very cold weather and none of them were dropping in coolant.

Almost like snow ans some kind of dirty something drips from the engine, but could never really found a specific leak.

So I would only say check coolant to be safe when you see this, but do not worry to much about it. Just seams worst with heavy snow fall. Do no why. Never happen when it was cold and no snow. For me anyway.
 

lumpskie

Independent Thinker
Thanks for the comments, you guys. It's good to know that other people have seen the wierd coolant leak in cold/snowy conditions as well. I think the dissimilar metals theory sounds reasonable and, if it ever happens again, I'm going to crawl under and look at fittings and clamps. Whatever it is, I didn't loose a perceptible amount of coolant, so that is encouraging. (Maybe there are some dirty drips involved as well) I'm just glad I it didn't end the trip and I was still able to get out and have a good trip!
 

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