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Chucaro

Adventurer
Hi Brent, to your point is very valid, special tooling for one job only can cost more that the completed camper !
Then again with a bit of research and imagination as I said before just an improvement on the original product and the issue of copy is not longer valid.
 

boblynch

Adventurer
Brent, thanks for the photo. I wonder how rigidly attaching the camper to the frame impacts the wheel travel and off-road characteristics of the Fuso? It’s a nice looking rig regardless. However, as others have suggested pulling the camper off to get to the engine would be a pain.

As far as the design rights go, Sportsmobile and others often add the “custom floorplan” built for one customer to the catalog of choices. Unless Mr. Bolton paid for exclusivity he’s probably out of luck. He may however own the rights to the pics of his rig. Hope they work it out.

Bob
 

Bajaroad

Adventurer
Rigid Frame

I sent them an email asking them how they deal with the frame. If I hear back I will post their response.

Ideas: I love ideas and concepts - they're easy. Just look at my completed avatar - I'm nearly ready to roll (wink). If every good product concept I've come up with came to fruition, I'd be wealthy enough to afford an AT Warrior. From my experience, product concepts are a dime-a-dozen, but concepts that turn into real products are one in a million. This is because there is a so much work between a concept and a finished product. Just check Doug H - and just think if he designed the truck camper from scratch. Even more work for a commerical product.

Chucaro, my guess is that the Warrior guys haven't built unit #2 (no pictures). When they do I will also guess they will implement many improvements from lessons learned on unit#1.

Ok, i'm up to $.04
 

Chucaro

Adventurer
Here in Australia, there are many motor homes made using the cab chassis of Mazda T4000, The Hino, Mitsubishi and Isuzu.
Many of them including the Mazda T3500 bus that I converted have a service/inspection hatch between the seats. However this trucks are design to till the cab forward to do mayor repairs, and then is when the cost of service in these motor homes can be astronomic.
It is not the first time that the motor home have to be lift and the engine removed from the bottom after removing all the other assemblies that are in the way because the cabin cannot be tilled forward. Massive job!
For that reason if i use a Canter in the future instead of the Defender 130 I will design something similar to Scout or Amesz design. There are plenty like this here in Oz.
 

Bajaroad

Adventurer
Engine Access

Chucaro said:
Here in Australia, there are many motor homes made using the cab chassis of Mazda T4000, The Hino, Mitsubishi and Isuzu.
Many of them including the Mazda T3500 bus that I converted have a service/inspection hatch between the seats. However this trucks are design to till the cab forward to do mayor repairs, and then is when the cost of service in these motor homes can be astronomic.
It is not the first time that the motor home have to be lift and the engine removed from the bottom after removing all the other assemblies that are in the way because the cabin cannot be tilled forward. Massive job!
For that reason if i use a Canter in the future instead of the Defender 130 I will design something similar to Scout or Amesz design. There are plenty like this here in Oz.

I don't know how Warrior accesses their engine, but the tilt cab is one of the best features of the FG. I am still committed to a pass-through cab, which is complicated by the tilt, but I wouldn't design-out the tilt feature for nothin'.

Chucaro, how far are you from Warrior - I know Aus is a small country (wink) so maybe you could cruise over to Warrior and get some answers and more pics.
 
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Chucaro

Adventurer
Brent, I am just 400 km north of their office. If I have time in my way down to Tasmania at the end of the month I will look into, other ways I will try on my return at the beginning of April.

There can be two ways to approach the passage from the cabin to the living quarters that come to my mind.
The most secure or trouble free can be with one sliding hatch in each side and a rubber tube to join them and the other just the rubber tube.
I like more the first one because you are sure that it is going to be water proof in any event (if the rubber breaks)
This type of construction is used when the 2 components move in different direction all the time. You can see similar join between wagons (cars ?) in the trains or articulate buses.
Cheers
 

Bajaroad

Adventurer
Warrior's got it going . . .

- spring loaded body subframe (not rigidly attached)
- pass thru cab
- tilt cab
 

Chucaro

Adventurer
That is a very smart way to do it, They done their home work.
I was looking at the prices that are going the Defenders crew cab 130 here in Oz and to get one 2003 I have to sell my Disco Tdi300 1998 and put $25000 on the top.
They are going to AUD$ 40000 which is over the top(only $14000 less than a new one)
The new ones are giving a bit of problems like any new model.
I think that will be better move to keep my Disco and get a used Canter 4X4 with the 25000 and have two of one of the best options for expeditions.
What are you think about it ?
 

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