Christophe Noel
Expedition Leader
Hydraulic road brake calipers? Huh? Whah? Whu-fer? 
I thought this was an April fools joke, but I guess not.
I thought this was an April fools joke, but I guess not.
SRAM need a problem for this solution
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3konas
Observer
Disc brakes are now legal in cyclocross or soon to be, right? Do you see disc coming to road racing? At first I thought these might be good on the cyclocross bike I use for towing a trailer. The cantis are not up to the task on heavier loads but I don't see the 42mm tires I use fitting these brakes.
Gooseberry
Explorer
Disc's on cyclocross, touring and tandems
goodtimes
Expedition Poseur
Problem: Consumers have $$$ in their pockets (or a credit card that isn't maxed out yet).
Solution:
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chris_the_wrench
Fixer & Builder of Things
Christophe Noel
Expedition Leader
Thanks Bike Mech. Seriously, when I first heard about these I thought it was a joke. To the posters above, these are not Disc stoppers. It's true, UCI finally gave in and green-lighted discs for 'cross, and there's been lots of chatter about discs on road bikes, but...... These are rim brakes. Go figure.
To make things even more entertaining, there are no levers currently to go with these. I assume they're releasing those at the same time. It's just silly. Who in the world would run hydro rim brakes on a road bike. It makes no sense what so ever. I put this in the top ten dumb developments in cycling. In fact, I put this above BioPace.
To make things even more entertaining, there are no levers currently to go with these. I assume they're releasing those at the same time. It's just silly. Who in the world would run hydro rim brakes on a road bike. It makes no sense what so ever. I put this in the top ten dumb developments in cycling. In fact, I put this above BioPace.
Christophe Noel
Expedition Leader
Well said. And I'm really happy to see Ogg doing well these days as the head of development for SRAM. I bet he loves it in Chicago. :bike_rider:
I was talking to one of my buds who writes for a big magazine and he said it best, "SRAM is well known for making the world's worst mountain bike brakes. Now they plan to dominate the road market with the world's worst road brake."
3konas
Observer
Re-reading my post I didn't make myself clear. My point is: Why bring these hydraulic rim brakes to market if we will be seeing disc brakes being approved for road competition. It seems putting time and money to make a better rim brake is just plan stupid if disc brakes are going to be allowed in the UCI.
Sorry for the confusion.
chris_the_wrench
Fixer & Builder of Things
Hey, biopace is great, if you never shift....Look at all the tour tt riders using similar idea.
-Chris
TangoBlue
American Adventurist
Ogg says hi. Maybe I'm dating myself but remember when SRAM came out with twist shifters? Or when disc brakes came out - who on earth would ever use disc brakes on a bicycle?
I'm not advocating this new product - I know nothing about it - but I do appreciate the innovation and desire to explore new technologies. Maybe they'll tank. Maybe in 10 years you'll be responding the same way I did on some other new piece of equipment.
Christophe Noel
Expedition Leader
I remember well when "Grip Shift" was so new, it was on more road bikes than mountain bikes. Funny stuff.
What's bizarre is the fact no one has yet to complain about cable actuated road brakes. Even cheap road brakes have gobs of power and plant of modulation for negligible weight and virtually mindless servicing. The one caveat to the perfection of the current road brake is the heat developed at the pad, and this hydro road brake doesn't address that...at all.
The disc brakes for road discussion makes tons of sense. It's the braking surface at the rim that is so problematic. This is what drove discs on mountain bikes. Discs on road bikes would eliminate the worrisome heat build up at the pad and allow frame and wheel designers more latitude with their carbon shaping since they would't have to allow for braking surfaces on the rims.
So, it's a really whacko idea. Magura had a hydro rim brake for mountain bikes and it's pretty tough to say that was a success.
What's bizarre is the fact no one has yet to complain about cable actuated road brakes. Even cheap road brakes have gobs of power and plant of modulation for negligible weight and virtually mindless servicing. The one caveat to the perfection of the current road brake is the heat developed at the pad, and this hydro road brake doesn't address that...at all.
The disc brakes for road discussion makes tons of sense. It's the braking surface at the rim that is so problematic. This is what drove discs on mountain bikes. Discs on road bikes would eliminate the worrisome heat build up at the pad and allow frame and wheel designers more latitude with their carbon shaping since they would't have to allow for braking surfaces on the rims.
So, it's a really whacko idea. Magura had a hydro rim brake for mountain bikes and it's pretty tough to say that was a success.
chris_the_wrench
Fixer & Builder of Things
Flounder said:
The Maguras were uber-popular in the mid-90s with the developing dh crowd and tandem riders, and still are quite popular among trials riders(a very small market segment). I sold/installed quite a few of the Tomac neons.
I still don't see the need for a hydro road rim brake, most everyone has gone to single pivot road brakes for their rear brakes because their lighter than dual pivots and the singles provide enough stopping power, generally. Disc roads with carbon rims is a different story.
-Chris
chris_the_wrench
Fixer & Builder of Things
I'm wondering if they are thinking about the flat-bar road crowd? The brake could interface with a mtb lever.
I'm just brainstorming for applications...
-Chris
I'm just brainstorming for applications...
-Chris