Stock or near stock vehicles

[Clutch]

With it lifted I was running CS019R packs with the D6XL extra leaf, which are essentially CS020R heavy springs (4 main full length, 3 progressive). I have a WilderNest on my truck and run shackles that are 5.5" long (I think, they are about an inch longer than stock, so give about 1/2" in lift). This was basically flat fully loaded with 1.5" ball joint spacers and 25mm torsion bars not cranked.

When I lowered it I took out the spacers and cranked in enough torsion bar preload to compensate for the winch and bull bar, which wasn't much. I removed the D6XL leaf from the rears (3 main, 3 progressive) and left the longer shackles. This is just about perfect with the WilderNest and typical load. When I take the 'Nest off it is obviously stink bug and rides very harsh. I threw in a few tube sand bags and it rides better but still very stiff. I need to get my camper back on but my truck was hit in the side so it needs to go in for a little body work, which will require the shop to remove the bed and I thought I'd be nice to them.

So short answer is mediums with a slightly longer than stock shackle seem to be just about right in a stockish truck used purposefully. They aren't too soft it doesn't seem to me. With an empty bed mediums with stock shackles seem like they would be good match with a stiffer stock height up to maybe about an inch of front lift. Slightly longer shackles (like I assume ARB makes, I'm using Marlin shackles) are enough to compensate for the FlipPac/'Nest.

I pulled the AAL and one of the overloads Friday....the AAL is going back in today...a little too soft. Rides great unloaded, useless other-wise. Two MX gear bags, moto trailer with two bikes, and a passenger had it banging off the bump stops.

 

[p nut]

With that setup you can easily run 255/85/16's, it will add ground clearance but not affect your mpg the way a wider tire would.

I would like to see some evidence of this. On my old Tacoma, I went with 235/85/16's instead of 265/75/16's (both BFG KO's). MPG drop from stock was the same--both got ~19MPG on the freeway. I commuted the same distance/route everyday (~100 miles) and have quite a bit of excel spreads to compare. Bottom line, there was NO difference, and I would suspect the same for 255/85's compared to other 33's.

 

[NMC_EXP]

Our current inventory:

--1998 4Runner: completely stock

--1989 Toyota 4WD truck: added camper shell but otherwise completely stock

--1986 FJ60: suspension lift, 33" tires, bumpers, winch and other bolt on stuff (bought it that way)

--1986 M1009 CUCV: converted from 24V to 12V starter but otherwise stock

--1979 FJ40: bought it new and it is still stock

Two drivers and five vehicles.....I need to sell some of this stuff.

 

[RangerXLT]

My truck is pretty well stock. Upgraded shocks, 2" torsion bar crank and 31" A/T's. I plan on adding an AAL just to help out when I'm loaded up. I feel like a lift kit is just too much and I would rather buy other upgrades.

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[Samuelwoo]

My stock JKURX with URSA top (approximately 200lbs if I remember correctly) and heavier AEV wheels with stock 255/75r17 Good Year SRA tires.

Accordingly to trip computer I haven't been able to get more than 19mpg. However the Jeep only has 3000 miles, so I'm hoping after break-in it will get a little higher.

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[rfroy]

Well tax return is on its way and I'm one step closer to my leveling kit and bilstine 5100's. With this done I will be looking for tires and possibly 18" wheels (currently have 17"). As this is my dd I can't go overboard. Stock tires are 31's. I'm thinking of going with 265/70r18, what would be a good AT tire other than BFG?

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[Hilldweller]

Well tax return is on its way and I'm one step closer to my leveling kit and bilstine 5100's. With this done I will be looking for tires and possibly 18" wheels (currently have 17"). As this is my dd I can't go overboard. Stock tires are 31's. I'm thinking of going with 265/70r18, what would be a good AT tire other than BFG?

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Why are you going to a larger wheel?
You won't air-down as effectively, the rubber costs more...

 

[Clutch]

the rubber costs more...

why is that anyways? there is less of it..

 

[Hilldweller]

why is that anyways? there is less of it..

They tell me it's supply and demand. But I smell conspiracy.

 

[rfroy]

Just a thought on the 18's as I found some wheels I like. I have a couple of weeks to make up my mind. My goal is to have the leveling kit and tires on before going to the Overland Expo in Flagstaff.

Just thoughts and I welcome all comments

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[Malamute]

I've been to Alaska 3 times, arriving by air twice and by ship once. So if I go again I'll drive, just for the experience of doing it.

I've driven to Alaska 3 times, I thought the drive through Canada was half the fun of going. I made a point to drive through Banff and Jasper parks, they are truly spectacular. If I did it again, I'd drive the Cassiar rather than the Alcan, the Alcan from Dawson Cr BC is pretty tame. There are some good side trips also, like Haines, or Skagway, the Top of the World Hwy, or the drive to Inuvik. It doesn't take a 4wd to do most of the roads, I saw all sorts of regular cars everywhere I went.

I camped in the back of my truck when I went, but now think I'd camp some and stay in cheap motels some or developed campgrounds with showers now and then.

I've had mostly stock 4wd's, and one 2wd pickup that I went all sorts of places I didn't know I shouldn't. Chains help in mud and snow. I went all sorts of crazy places on an old Harley also. The times I've gotten my trucks stuck, I doubt more lift or larger tires would have helped. I've managed to not get stuck in an awful long time, and still get out in some fantastic places.

 

[Clutch]

They tell me it's supply and demand. But I smell conspiracy.

lol

 

[climber-420]

Just a 2 1/2 inch lift and 235 85 16 tires, a built in inverter, a sleeping platform and some other small things.


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Pretty much the same, just without the lift.

 

[Wolvee]

I found this thread during a google search and I think it's well worth another go round. Maybe there are more guys out there that have near stock vehicles.

Mines near stock but only because I'm taking care of the reliability with all the basic and upgraded repairs before it goes into full expedition mode.

F250 springs, bigger brakes and tires.

 

[kojackJKU]

I found this thread during a google search and I think it's well worth another go round. Maybe there are more guys out there that have near stock vehicles.

Mines near stock but only because I'm taking care of the reliability with all the basic and upgraded repairs before it goes into full expedition mode.

F250 springs, bigger brakes and tires.

You have 250 springs on that? did you add new torsions too?