Sub-Compact Overlander

ratkin

Adventurer
Budget 1994 Vitara

This could be really interesting indeed.

So far I have narrowed it down to:

Kia Sportage
Suzuki Sidekick 4 doors
Grand Vitara
Toyota Rav4

One of our requirements (Scott and I) is to have it with a manual transmission.
Budget $5000 max.
Modifications would be minimal but what we consider essentials:

-new tires
-new suspensions springs
-fridge
-light/low profile rack to carry surfboards/bikes
-fog/rally lights

Most likely no roof top tent, we would be carrying a regular tent instead.

To try to pull this back to the contemplated build, I thought you might like to take a look at a budget build truck featured in Issue #146 of Australian 4WD Action magazine on pages 136-141.

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The owner is Steve West and he is a member of the North Brisbane Suzuki 4x4 Club, according to the article.

- Richard
 

REasley

Adventurer
sross Your up coming Sammy build is very similar to mine. Same gearing same ome's, bumpers front and rear, 235-75's, Neon seats, Petroworks tank. I am pretty pleased with how the zook rides with the ome springs.

Mine is a soft top so we built a box in the back for the dogs, with slide-outs below the box for storage. When we are out on the trail our gear goes in a trailer. We drop the trailer, set up a base camp and go exploring.
 

haven

Expedition Leader
One reason why a Sidekick or Vitara should be selected is the large number of Suzuki 4x4 enthusiasts' groups around the world. Australia, Chile, Russia, South Africa, it seems like wherever you go there are Suzuki fans.
 

sross

Adventurer
I'm glad to hear the OME springs work well. Your Zuk is one of the ones I looked at before going with my build. From your previous posts you seemed pretty happy with it.
 

Riptide

Explorer
I'm glad to hear the OME springs work well. Your Zuk is one of the ones I looked at before going with my build. From your previous posts you seemed pretty happy with it.

Those OME springs are on my to-do list for next spring for my Sami. I might PM ya for details, REasley, if you don't mind...
 

Sabre07

Observer
I like this build idea, sounds fun. Someone mentioned the Isuzu Amigo earlier. I think this would be a great choice. Manual tranny, low range, body on frame, a nice stance width and from what i recall, lots of Trooper parts which makes it fairly robust. Used Amigos are dirt cheap too and the rear quarter softop is cool in my book.

Some akin to this?:costumed-smiley-007

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haven

Expedition Leader
In the new issue of Overland Journal (Fall 2010, p 105), Jonathan Hanson takes a drive in a Suzuki Grand Vitara equipped with a variety of ARB products. Even though it's quite a bit larger than the vehicles we're talking about in this thread (15 inches longer and 900 lbs heavier than the Sidekick, for example), the V6-powered GV still managed to return almost 19 mpg on a 40 mile set of dirt roads. Jonathan describes it as "comfortable and versatile," a vehicle that works as a daily driver, and is ready to tackle many overland adventures.
 

OffaRex

Observer
This could be really interesting indeed.

So far I have narrowed it down to:

Kia Sportage
Suzuki Sidekick 4 doors
Grand Vitara
Toyota Rav4

My dad had a first generation 4dr Sportage. I was impressed with its off-road abilities in stock form.

Me: "That was a pretty rough jeep trail."
Brother: "That wasn't a jeep trail, it was a snowmobile trail with no snow on it."
Me: "Oh."​

Unfortunately, the electrical system was an absolute disaster and it spent way too much time in the shop -- quite unlike the Kia built Ford Festiva we had around the same time that just flat refused to die no matter what abuse we threw at it.
 
+1 on the Festiva, my wife had one in college. Was a very reliable car. Hers was an automatic and if your brakes ever went out all you had to do was turn the AC on! Short on power but very thrifty and reliable. I have always kept an eye on Kia from our positive experience with the Festiva.
 

OffaRex

Observer
Long live the Festiva

I have always kept an eye on Kia from our positive experience with the Festiva.

Same here. The Festiva was great. We took it on trails that it had absolutely no business driving. The passenger door wouldn't open from the outside because a deer ran into it (yes, that sentence is the right way round). One winter the driver door handle got so brittle from the cold that it snapped right off in my hand when I tried to open the door. We had to climb through the hatchback for a week until I could get it fixed.

Through it all, the engine was bullet-proof. I wouldn't hesitate to drive one from London to Ulaanbaatar.
 

SRN

Adventurer
Sross,

This is very close to what I've done. You can read about my Samurai here. (I'd copy and paste, but I'm on my phone so that's a pain.)

I've also recently added a rack, which is a great addition. Here's a picture of it loaded up:

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For one or two people the Samurai is a great setup. You can carry enough easily for a week and still be comfortable. With minimal modifications it will go pretty much anywhere you want to when exploring.

Only real downsides are that Samurai's are rust magnets, so finding a clean one is hard. I have a fair amount of rust on the rear fenders that I really need to get on. Also, no matter what suspension you put on there, they are rough. My OME's are a drastic improvement over stock, but on a long trip over washboard roads, your body is still going feel like mush.

I'm doing a Samurai build that is on hold until I get back to the States. What has been done so far a retired mechanic friend of my dad's did for part costs and beer money!:

done so far:

engine and transmission rebuilt
all the bushings and body mounts replaced
ome lift
front and rear bumpers
the few spots of rust repaired and a couple dings filled
front and rear axle services (only part I did so far)

current status:

waiting for paint unless its happened in the last two weeks. British Racing Green with white roof and wheels, all else black

parts waiting to be installed:

235x75x15 GY MTR's
Dodge Neon seats
tuffy center console
stereo stuff out of a car I used to own
Warn M8000 (used)
cheapo cobra cb from my old truck

To be ordered/built:

4:10 t-case gears
roof rack (for light weight stuff like camping chairs and mesh bag full of wet/dirty clothes)
15 gallon fuel tank
possibly an ARB in the rear which is dependant upon a job I may or may not get for next summer and will find out about in early November. (All the above will be ordered if I get it.)
front lockright
rear drawers (will build myself)
rock sliders/ (will build myself)

Will it be the most comfortable truck on the road? Big no, I'm a little concerned about this but I'll deal.

Does it have lots of storage? No again but still more than a bike.

It does get 25 mpg or so if driven conservativly, carry everything one person really needs, is easy to park, super simple in pretty much everyway, parts are cheap and it is just unusual enough to be interesting.
 

sross

Adventurer
SRN

Your sami is pretty much exactly what I was going for and I have shamelessly copied it since buying mine.
Mine was pretty clean other than a spot on the passenger floor board that had pinhole rust and the hood was pretty beat up. There was also a bullet hole in the driver door from a hunting accident. That has all been fixed and the body taken down to bare metal and primed. I'm still waiting to hear if the paint has been done.

How do you like the rear lockright? This will be my DD/only vehicle and I am most likely moving to a small city and I don't really want to make the truck even worse to drive. I think I am going to hold out for the ARB if I do anything to the rear.
 

lonestrom

Adventurer
Back in the early 90's I owned a 4x4 shop that built nothing but Suzuki vehicles,mostly sami's.We had a core group of about 20 that did every hardcore trail around Washington state.We used them for 2-4 day offroad trips and found them to be tough as nails.If you don't mind packing light and sleeping in a tent I think they are just about the perfect weekend getaway adventure vehicle.Oh ya by the way I had a Sami pickup with folding sides that I got from Japan and it was awsome !!.
 

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