Surprised no one is discussing the Cybertruck today.
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calicamper
Expedition Leader
Vehicle regulation laws are created to force manufacturers to change not the end user. As a end user I make my choice apparent with what I purchase. If auto makers can’t sell something they find a new something that does sell. GOV policies get tweaked they aren’t written in magical unmodifiable stone. Hell the fleet Mpg average mandate has been tweaked more times than I can count.
ICE isn’t going anywhere for heavy applications. But the Urban dweller mid sized and smaller vehicles will definitely see a change most likely to a non ice something combo. Even ice / plugin hybrid something is most likely given auto makers already have that solution sorted out
slomatt
Adventurer
Please help me understand then. If you look at the text from vagabond he specifically said "head splattered" in reference to a taller hood, and you then mentioned "severed both legs" by some kind of zero height hood and asked if he would be better off that way. Or... are you trying to make a hypothetical comparison with his real-world permanent disability? Either way, there are existing European studies about hood height you might find interesting.
For the second part I must have missed where the car was moving without a driver, I'm still getting used to the idea of self-driving cars (joking).
Of course the driver is part of the equation. BUT, we are talking about large populations here. Given the average driver in the US, are they likely to cause more damage to a pedestrian in a vehicle with a tall grill or in one with a shorter grill?
plainjaneFJC
Deplorable
This whole discussion has me gone down the rabbit hole of looking for a nice clean early 80s late 70s Chevy K20.😆
life_w_vagabonds
Explorer
First hand experience and data is trumped by what-aboutisms, anecdotes and reconstructed history.
I seriously doubt he has anything thoughtful to add to a conversation here. I blocked his accounts and moved on.
tacollie
Glamper
I don't know any pedestrians that havebeen hit by a car. I do know many cyclists that have been severely injured, maimed, and killed by cars. Sure some of them were by vehicles with big grills but every single one involved either negligence, speeding, drugs, or ill intent. Statistically 49% of the pedestrians killed are hit by people with alcohol in their blood. 30% involved pedestrians with a blood alcohol content over 0.08%. I lt's not big vehicles that are the problem. The problem is more people drive like ****************** and there just happens to be more big vehicles on the road. I pulled those numbers off of the CDC website.
Cyber truck is probably safer because it'll correct for drink drivers to some degree. It's still an overpriced door stop.
Cyber truck is probably safer because it'll correct for drink drivers to some degree. It's still an overpriced door stop.
JaSAn
Grumpy Old Man
Same here, only pre 1970. Before they started adding a lot of electronics and other stuff.
As to the silly argument of high vs low frontal area: with such a huge mass differential, in any collision you loose. If you bang you head against the grill or it takes your legs out and then you bang you melon on the hood/windscreen, you are not coming out of it in good shape.
life_w_vagabonds
Explorer
Absolutely, I was hit with a Kia Soul.
What keeps getting lost in this “conversation” is the drivers visibily. Obscured by the long high hood and ever thicker A pillars that allow a vehicle to pass SORB tests, in-spite of vehicles growing mass.
But I’m sure the solution would be to not allow people to walk or just carry your kids in a 30 year old car or something something about my “rights” or “your opinion”. Because fretting over unnecessary death or injury is silly and restricts the freedom to maim.
JaSAn
Grumpy Old Man
We are vulnerable walking. I am very proactive about making sure others see me:
- I watch traffic around me.
- I walk facing oncoming traffic.
- I wear a high visibility shirt or jacket.
- I make eye contact with drivers at crosswalks.
- I wait to see if a vehicle is going to yield before stepping in front of it.
In a vehicle/pedestrian collision the pedestrian always looses. I don't care who is at fault, no amount of money or prison time is compensation for my loss of legs or brain.
In my walking experience bicycles are the worst offenders and they have no obstructions to their view. I've had 3 collisions with bicycles while walking, one resulting in knee damage.
NevadaLover
Forking Icehole
He ranted about some imaginary "head splattered" event, then claimed to be "permanently disabled" by a vehicle driven by an "inattentive driver" all while claiming "hood height kills pedestrians", he keeps blaming the vehicle size and no blame goes to the operator, so I simply asked him if he would prefer to be hit by a low car rather than a big car.
But it doesn't matter in the end, vagabond is one of those users who can't deal with people who will not accept his beliefs as their own, he doesn't like being questioned or debated with so he uses the ignore button, and he is so delusional that he thinks @plainjaneFJC and I are the same user simply because we dared to debate him.
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NevadaLover
Forking Icehole
First cybertruck accident reported today, was hit by a Toyota corolla on the drivers side, took some damage but nowhere near the damage the corolla sustained, it'd be interesting to hear how much repair cost estimates are for both vehicles.
www.autoblog.com
Here's the first Tesla Cybertruck crash on a public road
The Tesla Cybertruck has been through its first public crash, and these are the details.
www.autoblog.com
rruff
Explorer
A few minutes with a hammer and some bondo... good as new...First cybertruck accident reported today, was hit by a Toyota corolla on the drivers side, took some damage but nowhere near the damage the corolla sustained, it'd be interesting to hear how much repair cost estimates are for both vehicles.
Here's the first Tesla Cybertruck crash on a public road
The Tesla Cybertruck has been through its first public crash, and these are the details.
NevadaLover
Forking Icehole
Another stupid article highlighting the ignorance of people, imagine being proud that your overpriced toy of a truck has 700 or 850 horsepower and neither one is fit to tow or a haul a heavy load for long distances.
www.yahoo.com
Tesla Cybertruck leaves rival pickup truck in the dust in drag race video: ‘A new era of automotive performance’
“The Cybertruck is definitely the fastest pickup truck as of now!"
AbleGuy
Officious Intermeddler
My strategy too…based on some helpful advice from a personal injury lawyer friend of mine. He says you (or your survivors) have a much better case for getting lots more moolah from the distracted driver that runs you over if you can persuade the jury you were easily visible 😁
High front ends? With both my k2500 hd and my f 350 4x4, the front grills are so tall that when I pull into a parking space, it always seems like I’m going to smash into the car parked in front of me if I move any further forward. But when I get out and walk around the front of my rig, I usually am at least 4’ away from any car in front of me.
So yeah, if a midget walking a dachshund while distractedly looking at his phone meandered in front on me while I was trying to park, I’d probably run them right over, sight unseen. Couldn’t be helped, right?
Drive our Suby up into the mountains, you can’t see any view of the canyons below because the low height of the rig has you looking out right at the guardrails. They’re all you see. Drive either of the trucks and you get to really enjoy views of all of the scenery. Seeing new views, a big reason for traveling, yeah?
But the damn trucks do sit up kinda high…to wash the windshield of the Tiger F350, I’ve got to grab the side mirror, jump up onto the top of the front tire, try to maintain my balance there while stretching out precariously over the hood to try to reach the windshield. A PITA.
I do get what’s being said about the potentially destructive force of the high grills…and am wondering why a relatively simple sounding solution hasn’t been tried yet. Maybe auto manufacturers could install reactive air bags on front bumpers. Could better protect peds and also help out with deer/moose/elk hits too? 🤔