Surprised no one is discussing the Cybertruck today.

workerdrone

Part time fulltimer
in my limited experience huge wipers don't work that well, are expensive, and wear faster - wonder how well this one works

would have been neat if they came up with some high tech way of doing away with traditional wiper tech and using high tech coatings or airflow or lasers or nano-wiperbots or something 🤣
 

rruff

Explorer
What's the difference in puking in one's mouth vs. all over the carpet?
Function over form was discarded on pickups a long time ago. The crazy thing is that the Cybertruck, as odd as it looks and as much as it is "form over function"... actually is better in function than the typical pickup in that regard.
 

calicamper

Expedition Leader
Reserving judgement until I see one in person. I hear that's very different than any impression you get from the pictures.

Saw an embarassing video where it had a lot of trouble climbing what looked like a simple offroad slope, but thought it could easily have been traction control software that needs more work?

I don't have a problem with the pricing, the peformance could be really amazing.

And I like vehicles that are different from the cookie cutter usual offerings
Can’t fight physics. Heavy as hell, makes climbing kinda difficult
 

calicamper

Expedition Leader
Function over form was discarded on pickups a long time ago. The crazy thing is that the Cybertruck, as odd as it looks and as much as it is "form over function"... actually is better in function than the typical pickup in that regard.
I find that incredibly difficult to understand. The standard pickup has been shaped by service people who use them for function for a very long time. Even if the cyber truck was less than a bare bones F150 you wouldn’t find any service people buying them. So no its just a party trick skate board platform with a ridiculous body put on it.
 

dman93

Adventurer
Can’t fight physics. Heavy as hell, makes climbing kinda difficult
It’s lighter than other battery EV pickups. That “hill” where it was photographed at Hollister Hills is actually quite challenging. I’ve only been there once, but even in my triple locked 80 Series LC it required some care in line choice and throttle application. Who knows, the Tesla engineers who were driving may have intentionally picked poor lines, or turned off traction control with test SW, or did other things to TEST the vehicle, and weren’t just trying to make it easy.

I agree it’s got looks that will take a while, maybe forever, to get used to, but as @rruff noted above, the CT’s function could be pretty darn good based on the little we’ve seen so far. Sure Tesla’s are trendy, but the Model Y is on track to be the best-selling car in the world by next year. The first American car to do that since the Model T. They’re no longer novelty toys and feature some amazing engineering.
 

rruff

Explorer
I find that incredibly difficult to understand. The standard pickup has been shaped by service people who use them for function for a very long time. Even if the cyber truck was less than a bare bones F150 you wouldn’t find any service people buying them. So no its just a party trick skate board platform with a ridiculous body put on it.
No, they were... but now they are shaped by fashion and ego (macho mostly). You have to sit up high because you can't have anyone looking down on you, and for some ungodly reason the hood and codpiece grill have to be even taller! You have to plot a course through the rocks and obstacles 50ft in advance because you can't see in front of the truck. Forget about reaching over the side of the bed for anything. If this was done for some function like ground clearance, that would be something, but it isn't. The engine, transmission, frame, exhausts, and axles hang down as low as ever, but the cab and bed are higher off the ground. That's how you can get the flat floor in the rear seat! There is a ridiculous waste of space under my truck, and I'm sure it isn't the worst offender. There is about a foot of vertical space under the whole left side of the cab. The right side is taken up by a single exhaust pipe hanging down. With a little better packaging there would room for a 100 gal of gas or tons of storage or whatever... but the more sensible approach would be to make it lower.

I am not a Chevrolet hater... I had a lot of fun in a couple of them in my younger years... but this sight makes me wanna barf...

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The Tesla appears to have better performance specs than any BEV or ICE truck made... efficiency, acceleration, maneuvering and turning, handling. It should be excellent offroad, or at least it has the potential. Hauling shouldn't be an issue. Durable AF body panels aren't bad. Sure, it's expensive and can't tow a big trailer very far like every other BEV. And there are probably some annoying features that will be hard to fix that haven't gotten much press yet.

More people buy pickups in the US than anything else, and there are fewer and fewer people who have professions where a pickup is needed or makes sense. They are used for cummuting and driving to the store primarily. Luxury double cabs with all the bells and whistles, tiny little beds, gratuitously high off the ground. They are really big manly-macho status symbols.

So... in what way is the Cybertruck ridiculous by comparison?
 

workerdrone

Part time fulltimer
Who knows, the Tesla engineers who were driving may have intentionally picked poor lines, or turned off traction control with test SW, or did other things to TEST the vehicle, and weren’t just trying to make it easy.

Yeah, it looked suspiciously struggling. Could have been too much psi in tires, sheer mass, tuning traction software...

I know Elon is watching this thread closely so I'll just say I can't wait for the 2 wheeled stuff man ;-)
 

Todd780

OverCamper
So... in what way is the Cybertruck ridiculous by comparison?
I think for most, it's the looks. And while I'm not a fan of the looks, I appreciate that it's something different and I can appreciate the innovations and features. Kind of the same way I feel about the Aztek. Still think the Azteks removable centre console / cooler was a neat feature I would have liked to see in other models.
 

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