after blowing a bead in 5 feet of snow yesterday its time to get the spare from out from underneith the truck and build the swingout tire carrier that i had planed on doing from the beginning. im looking at all the different hinge style. i was thinking about using a one inch bolt in double shear with a heavy sleave and poly pushings. do you think the poly bushings would be strong enough to take the weight? i will have bumps between the arm and bumper when its closed to there will be little pressure on the bushings at "rest". tell me what u guys think.
swingout tiregate question
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seanz0rz
Adventurer
poly bushings will not work for what you want.
im partial to two mounts in double sheer. i used two with .5" grade 8 bolts on my tire carrier, with the swing end supported when its closed.
if you choose to go with your proposed design, use delirin bushings. i found mine on ebay, fairly good quality. price was right and for something that isnt a suspension component, it was perfect.
im partial to two mounts in double sheer. i used two with .5" grade 8 bolts on my tire carrier, with the swing end supported when its closed.
if you choose to go with your proposed design, use delirin bushings. i found mine on ebay, fairly good quality. price was right and for something that isnt a suspension component, it was perfect.
why wont they work? just curious im thinking of going with two mounts also now that i think about my design. do you have any pics of your setup. also i was thinking about using barrel hinges, but what keeps the whole carrier from lifting up? may be a dumb question, but have never worked with them before and cant tell from pics
seanz0rz
Adventurer
poly bushings flex, which is what makes them good for suspension components, especially components that move in directions in addition to rotating around the bolt. what you dont want in a tire carrier is alot of flex at the piviots.
this page from my buildup over at ultimateyota details the tire gate:
http://www.ultimateyota.com/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=26&topic=8072.90
this page from my buildup over at ultimateyota details the tire gate:
http://www.ultimateyota.com/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=26&topic=8072.90
seanz0rz
Adventurer
kartek in corona, ca sells them, but without knowing where you are located, i wouldnt know who would have them.
none of those places would have them i would think. i got mine from ebay, but many places around the web sell them. you would find them at an offroad shop/fab place. any place that does custom racers, buggies, that kind of thing
none of those places would have them i would think. i got mine from ebay, but many places around the web sell them. you would find them at an offroad shop/fab place. any place that does custom racers, buggies, that kind of thing
yyc_ranger_4x4
New member
If you're looking to do only one pivot point, check out AtoZ Fab. They've got bearing kits that weld in using a spindle and essentially what are trailer bearings. They're greaseable, and rebuildable. They will also support the weight really well due to the design of the bearings.
http://www.atozfabrication.com/store/product.php?productid=16138
http://www.atozfabrication.com/store/product.php?productid=16138
151fab
Observer
That is exactly what you should be using if you don't want to go through the trouble of using true bearings and seals. A set of sealed needle bearings would be my first choice down here in the desert with all the sand and abrasiveness but you should be fine with oilite solid (sleeve) bearings as long as you remember that any solid bearing, whether synthetic or metal, will wear. Get a flanged version or a set of thrust washers to protect the edges of you pivot from galling the mounts.
Buy it from www.mcmaster.com but be aware that once you go to that website you will find a million other projects you didn't know you had to do.
Other things to check out on that site:
latches, specifically "pull action toggle clamps"
drawer slides
cabinet latches
quick release pins
weld-in pins
springs
bolts
lostworldexpedition
Explorer
soonenough
Explorer
Here's a couple links I've saved with some tire carrier hinges: EMS Off-Road.com, Comp4x4.com
That is so so true...
ntsqd
Heretic Car Camper
I am getting less and less enamored with the trailer spindle variants all of the time. The leverage that the tire has on these is huge. The two separate pivots shown above are better so long as they are attached to something rigid. If just attached to a vertical post then may as well use the trailer spindles.
Casper
Adventurer
Not sure if you have considered this route, but I really like it. Seems very strong (had it for a year with no issues) and if one does happen to break, they are only $12. Hiems. Two on each swing out. Here are some photos.
Smooth swinging, very adjustable and just different and cool
Just another opinion.
Cheers,
Josh
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Porthos
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Smooth swinging, very adjustable and just different and cool
Just another opinion.
Cheers,
Josh
&
Porthos
:smiley_drive:
maXTERRA
Adventurer
I'm using oilite bushings from McMaster Carr (www.mcmaster.com)
6338k439 flange sleeve bushings, grade 8 1"x6" hex bolt & LW.
I'm now adding a grease zerk in the hinge tube to primarily prevent rust in the sleeve & bolt (the bushings don't quite meet in the middle).
Had mine going on two years now and still very tight and smooth operating.
Latch is a Southco A2-10-501-21 from biscoindustries.com
6338k439 flange sleeve bushings, grade 8 1"x6" hex bolt & LW.
I'm now adding a grease zerk in the hinge tube to primarily prevent rust in the sleeve & bolt (the bushings don't quite meet in the middle).
Had mine going on two years now and still very tight and smooth operating.
Latch is a Southco A2-10-501-21 from biscoindustries.com
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