Taking delivery of my '14 pro-4x tomorrow

KiwiKurt

Explorer
He is based out the Jersey/tri state area, but can tune your car remotely. you run an air fuel probe and take data logs that you send to him and he adjusts from there.
 

BuffaloFunk

Observer
I really think there is some added efficiency to be had with letting the engine breath, and if you are inclined, a retune for 89oct or better. Cam timing/phasing in motors can accomplish quite a bit, including the low end tq you are looking for. From the factory, they have to tune it for emissions standards...re tuning the ignition timing, cam phasing, and fuel trims for a little better fuel would most certainly pay huge dividends. Last car i tuned, for example, was my subaru. It was rated at 26(i think?) mpg from the factory....when i finished with it, it made well north of 400hp at the wheels and routinely trimmed 32mph on the highway. It was all in the calibration....after ive run it for a while Ill talk to the guy with the Nissan tuning software and see what he thinks, but there is definitely gains to be had.
Did the Suby have a turbo though? You'll never get the returns of a simple tune on a naturally aspirated engine with a tune as you do on one with a turbo. You'll get improvements, but don't go expecting what you got on the Subaru.
 

KiwiKurt

Explorer
Oh it was turbo. I dont mean gains will be the same, or that even it would end up being 30+mpg. I just point out that even after a massive fuel pump, gargantuan injectors, that after tuning I saw over 20% increase to factory rated mpg.....

Just that tuning engines does imorove efficiency is all....

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Tinfish

Observer
EDIT: Oh, and the Rugged Trails? I'm not that impressed with them. For the seasonal roads and few trails I've done, they've been fine. A bit short on traction in the wet, but nothing horrible. They have been disappointing in the snow though. Yeah, they aren't snow tires, but they perform worse than I thought they should/would have in the snow. I'm not in a major rush to replace them, but I certainly wouldn't buy them given the choice.

I also have a '13 pro4x and I'd agree with this. The stock tires are firmly ok without being great. I doubt I'll replace them before they wear out, but I also doubt I'll ever like them very much.
 

GHR

Observer
Like other folks here, started by looking at 2013 4runner TE and drove both it and the 2013 Xterra Pro 4X. In my case I preferred the smaller size of the X, but did like the 4runner features more, but not for another 10k+. Much better pricing on the X and I have been very happy with it over the last 4 months. I did get the dealer to upgrade the tires primarily as I wanted tires that were snow rated and they gave me a good price for the stock tires in trade. I considered Goodyear Duratracs, the Silent Armors (Pro Grade) and BFG AT. All E rated. Went with the Silent Armors, but if I did less DD and more trail work would have likely purchased the Duratracs.
 
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KiwiKurt

Explorer
I think goodyear duratrac will be what I go with when I replace these. Ill run the stockers until I need to change, though.

Honestly, the only feature the 4runner has that I wish the x had was the slide down rear window. I like the x more than the runner otherwise. The price difference makes it even more of a no brainer.
 
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mortonm

Expedition Leader
I think goodyear duratrac will be what I go with when I replace these. Ill run the stockers until I need to change, though.

Honestly, the only feature the 4runner has that I wish the x had was the slide down rear window. I like the x more than the runner otherwise. The price difference makes it even more of a no brainer.

Likese on the rear window. Easy to grab or load from the cargo area and great if you have a dog back there.
 

NCtrail4R

Adventurer
Had a similar cost debate when I picked up my Xterra. Looked at 4 Runners Jeeps and FJ Cruisers - Just too good of a deal to justify going any other way. Had owned several other Nissans over the years (A Titan and 2 Pathfinders) so I knew I'd end up with a solid and reliable truck if I went with the Xterra. Great first mod is adding a set of rock sliders. Take a look at Hefty Fab for a set of sliders - will help protect from damage on the trail.
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If you want to get into a new set of tires sooner, then consider picking up the new set and putting your current tires on Craigslist. You could easily cut the cost of new tires in half (or better) if you make the change with more than 75% tread left on the stock tires. The longer you wait the less you'll get for your current tires.
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Good luck with the Xterra - should serve you well for many years to come.
 
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Rebelord

Semper Fi
Depending on terrain. You could also try to find a cheap set of stock wheels on craigslist and put the larger off road tires on there. Keep your current stock setup for daily driving duty.
Being my local area is mostly mud. I daily drove on my STTs for about a month. Then picked up a set of '01 Pathfinder stock wheels to run basic all terrains in stock size for daily duty.
 

RonapRhys

Adventurer
thenewx.org is a great resource for all of the mods you'll ever need. Xterranation is another good spot. Many of the folks there are more about wheeling and less about Expo-style travel, but that doesn't make it less of a resource.
 

TWC4

New member
Awesome!

Congrats on the 14. My wife and I just traded our green 2010 (maybe 11) in on a 2013 Pro-4. I've enjoyed reading this thread. A note about the Nav from page 3 or 4. With NissanConnect you can do a lot stuff from your computer and Send it to your car. i know that doesn't help when your parked and trying to find a place but a really function regardless.

Winston,
Tejas
 

KiwiKurt

Explorer
Thanks for all the info everyone.

Im in the north east right now and had it out quite a bit in the snow. Ive seen lots of people complaining about the stock tires in the snow, but I had absolutely no issues getting around in 2wd or 4wd.
 

gingerbeardman

New member
There are no options. You might be able to try and have someone fab up something custom. More than likely you will need to relocate your spare to the roof or get a bumper w/ a tire carrier in order to accommodate for extra tank space. You have few options when it comes to modifying beyond some quality armor and a few different lift packages. thenewx.org has a ton of good information, but as far as I know, there has not been any success in the extended fuel tank arena.
 

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