TerraLiner:12 m Globally Mobile Beach House/Class-A Crossover w 6x6 Hybrid Drivetrain

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Hi Bio and Thjakits !
I think that there is absolutely no need for hard words in this thread.
We need all the energy for research and creativity to keep on going with the Terraliner.
That Thomas role is sometimes more the Devil's Advocate one, what is wrong with that ?

Best Campo

 

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Hi campo,

thjakits specifically asked that I not post more material about this matter, and I'd like to honor his request. Discretion is the better part of valor. It's now water under the bridge, and it would probably be wisest to leave things that way.

All best wishes,



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1. A CHANGE OF THREAD TITLE


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To all thread participants,


If possible, it would be good if we could continue discussing TerraLiner power requirements, after I've posted the following.

However, it seems time for a change of thread title. Now that I've gained a better understanding of the "programmatic" requirements of the TerraLiner, a change in the thread title would further clarify things for everyone. In particular, it would make it easier for people to decide if this is a thread in which they want to participate, and might reduce some of the recent confusion.

Yes, this may mess up some websites linked to the thread, but as near as I can tell, Google would still retain a "memory" of the old thread name, and the thread would still be accessible by that old name.

Furthermore, enough has transpired that some elements in the title have become thoroughly obsolete. "8x8" was obsolete a long time ago, and "Tatra" is no longer in the running, because Tatra does not seem to have developed in-house expertise with respect to hybrid technologies. The toss-up is now between MAN and IVECO-Astra, because these are companies large enough to have truck as well as bus divisions; because they both have in-house expertise in the design and manufacture of torsion-free frames; and because both have extensive experience with hybrid and/or electric buses. "Expedition RV" is also now obsolete and misleading, because I am not imagining the TerraLiner specifically as doing much exploring. Rather, the TerraLiner will serve as a "base camp" for sojourning, and the TOAD will do the exploring.

I also want the thread to distance itself a bit from the traditional concept of an "Expedition RV", as that concept now exists in the minds of many participants on ExPo. What I a moving towards is something rather different than their ideal of a mid-size compromise vehicle that fast-travels, and that is designed mainly to explore, and to sojourn at best only days or weeks, but not for many months. Because the concept of an "Expedition RV" is so freighted with prior associations and expectations, at least here on ExPo, it seems best to ditch the concept completely.

So instead, I am thinking of changing the thread title to the following:


12m Globally Mobile Beach House/Class-A Crossover, on Hybrid 6x6 Torsion-Free Chassis


"12m" at the very beginning would signal that if someone does not want to discuss or think about very large kinds of motorhome, then this thread is not for them. "Globally Mobile Beach House" signals lots of things, including the "Base Camp" concept, surf glamping, slow travel, and the idea of a vehicle that will be stationary for months at a time. But "Class-A Crossover" suggests that unlike most concept-designs for mobile beach houses, the TerraLiner will not be just a house on a trailer, one that needs another vehicle to move it. The TerraLiner will still be autonomously mobile, just like a regular motorhome. I would prefer to write "Mobile Beach house/Globally Capable Class-A Crossover", but there is not enough room in the title block, and perhaps global capability is already implied enough by the phrase "Globally Mobile".

"Crossover" is there to signal that this will be a new vehicle type, and to warn those who yearn for tighter and more fixed categories in transportation design that they won't find them here. "Hybrid" is obvious enough, because that has become a major preoccupation of the thread. And "6x6 Torsion-Free Chassis" preserves what is still useful in the old title.

I figure that "Mobile Beach House" combined with "Class A" and "Torsion-Free Chassis" should be enough to make it clear that the interior will be "Fully integrated", so I've eliminated "Fully Integrated" as well. In any case, the thread is now so packed with information about -- and a defense of -- fully integrated interior design, and the subject has been so extensively treated, that it's time to move on from that initial step. Furthermore, American Class A motorhomes are always fully integrated, and that's part of what it means to be a Class A. The biggest difference between a Class A and a Class C in the American market, apart from size, is that Class C motorhomes are CBE format and are only "semi-integrated", or not integrated at all. They look like trucks with camper bodies attached. Whereas Class A motorhomes are built from the ground up and look more like buses. So with "Class A" in the title block, a fully integrated interior design would at least be implicit.

Note that changing thread titles on ExPo is easy, but I would insert an explanatory box in the first post of the thread, to let any new readers know what the original title was, and why it was changed.

After reading the following which explains the concept of a "Mobile Beach House", please let me know what you think of the new title!


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2. What is a "MOBILE BEACH HOUSE"?


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I'd like to address this in further detail in a later post, but here I should briefly explain what I mean by a "Mobile Beach House."

As already suggested a number of times, I am no longer imagining the TerraLiner as an expedition motorhome at all, but rather, as a rather more like a mobile version of a trailer-park house: the upscale kind equipped with drop-down decks. Except that unlike the typical American trailer-park house, the TerraLiner would be autonomously mobile. It could pick up and move in a heartbeat, just like a Class-A motorhome. So the TerraLiner will be crossover vehicle what combines a MAN or Iveco-Astra 6x6 torsion-free sub-frame, with the spaciousness of an American Class-A of the kind that Newell builds, and the expansive decks of a mobile house. I am imagining the TerraLiner as a mobile beach house that can put down roots for months at a time on coastal farmland, exploring the surrounding territory with its TOAD, and enjoying the coast with its water-toys.

Here are some links to “mobile houses”, in anticipation of the question, “What is the difference between a mobile home, and a mobile house?” -- ee http://chachanova.com/mobile-house/ , http://www.dwell.com/house-tours/slideshow/upwardly-mobile-homes?slide=1&paused=true , http://inhabitat.com/vodafones-mobile-blogger-home/voda02/ , http://dornob.com/elegant-modern-prefab-homes-defy-portable-house-type/ , http://www.aleutia.com/solar-container/ , http://www.cnet.com/news/samsung-solar-powered-school-shines-in-rural-south-africa/ , and http://techdestroyers.com/10-unique-designs-of-traveling-house/ . And here are some images:










Clearly many although by no means all "mobile houses" are based on shipping containers. I included the image of the "Internet School", of course, because it has such a huge folding solar array, one that triples the size of the surface area available available on top of just the container.


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Particularly valuable are the following links to “mobile houses” found on the “minimal-life” website, many of which are imagined as "mobile beach houses" -- see http://minimallife.co/minimal-life/1040/ , http://minimallife.co/minimal-life/918/ , http://minimallife.co/minimal-life/472/ , http://minimallife.co/minimal-life/1620/ , http://minimallife.co/minimal-life/964/ , http://minimallife.co/minimal-life/581/ , http://minimallife.co/minimal-life/836/ , http://minimallife.co/minimal-life/676/ , http://minimallife.co/minimal-life/3175/ :









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These images are intended as merely evocative, not declarative. Don't worry, I still fully intend to design an "RV" or "motorhome", otherwise I would not be spending so much time researching and thinking about hybrid drivetrain systems.:sombrero: ..All of these mobile houses are imagined as being “dropped” in a given location, and then picked up again later to be moved elsewhere, by a separate vehicle. This is not what's wanted for maximally flexible global travel. Furthermore, all of these designs are much too rectilinear for my taste, even the Chinese container with with circular port-hole windows.

Instead, I posted them because of their huge, expansive drop-down decks, and their feeling of being "open" to outside world once set in place, and once their decks are unfolded. That's the part of their design that I find most inspiring, and most applicable to the TerraLiner.


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One of the most sophisticated mobile houses designed to date is the "G-Pod", even though it may still be just a concept -- see http://g-pod.com/home/ , http://g-pod.com/about-us/ , http://g-pod.com/dwell/ , and http://g-pod.com/media/ :










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[video=vimeo;94625987]https://vimeo.com/94625987 [/video] [video=youtube;ekV4ZwqgbvE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekV4ZwqgbvE [/video]



Here again it's the deck and its wonderfully curved awning that I find inspiring, and not the rectilinear interior design. I love this concept as "evocative" of how I think a crossover between a mobile beach house and a Class A motorhome should look, once installed somewhere for 3 months: with decks completely open to the surrounding natural environment, which would typically be a farmer's plot of land.

And here again I think the sociological problem of "security" or "immunity from crime" should not be solved by making the TerraLiner itself a fortress, but rather, by depending upon the security provided when one rents a bit of land from those firm believers in property rights, namely, farmers. I very much agree that when underway between base camps the TerraLiner needs to protect its abundant windows from rocks, and for security reasons it needs to look more like a nondescript truck. But what the TerraLiner needs to look like when underway, is different from what it needs to look like once glamping in a farmer's field for 3 months.

I also really like the overall "shape" or "feeling" of the volume created by the porch, its pergola, and the curved awning overhead. I like how the vertical struts at the front of the porch angle out, and how the curved awning is angled, so that the solar array on top is more optimally pointed towards the sun.

I had already assumed that the mono-crystalline solar panels on the TerraLiner's roof would need to be able to tilt to maximize their efficiency. But it just occurred to me that when windspeed is low, the pergolas and solar awnings on both sides of the TerraLiner could be optimally angled, too. This would necessitate that the pergola facing north (when in the northern hemisphere) or facing south (in the southern hemisphere), i.e. facing way from the sun, should be able to extend upwards, so that its solar awning is optimally tilted towards the sun, too. In other words, the vertical poles on the corners might need to be telescopic, so that they can shorten to as little as 2 - 2.5 m, but expand upwards to as much as 4 - 5 m. I'll need to think about this a bit more; the thought only just occurred to me.

Finally, I like the description of the G-pod as a "readily transportable autonomous living module", one that can be used "off-grid without the need for mains or electricity, water, or sewage."

Note that the G-pod is not even remotely original as an example of "Pod Architecture". The list of precursors in Pod Architecture is huge, most notably the Helicopter House and Peanut Pod designed by Jan Kaplicky in the 1970s, the Futuro House designed by Matti Suuronen in the late-1960s, and the Dymaxion House built by Buckminster Fuller in 1930 -- see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Kaplický , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Futuro , and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dymaxion_house . The idea of an "autonomous house" or an "autonomous building" has as very long and deep history in architecture, now going back almost a century, and the G-pod is merely a recent proposal in the same tradition -- see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonomous_building .

I'll discuss the idea of the "autonomous house" at some length further along in the thread, when I review great examples of biomorphic Pod Architecture. Here I just want to signal that I am imaging in the TerraLiner as, in effect, a self-propelled autonomous pod. Almost all previous examples of Pod Architecture have not been truly autonomous, because they depend upon a separate vehicle -- typically a truck or a helicopter -- to set them into place, as per the first video about the G-Pod above.


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In addition, to give thread participants a sense of where I am headed, here are some wonderful videos of re-purposed ISO containers equipped to expand and fold out in myriad ways:



[video=youtube;BFtgTHeqtBQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFtgTHeqtBQ&list=PLm6YUpzR2qAyi5Ia4bDUUN6c TBLK_kf-Y&index=3[/video] [video=youtube;ZyZWmfnIIGk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyZWmfnIIGk&index=8&list=PLm6YUpzR2qAyi5Ia 4bDUUN6cTBLK_kf-Y[/video]
[video=youtube;8sPdvgBbY7s]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sPdvgBbY7s&list=PLjcU0mRBkS0n5JQDYgnFVxt9 nWDvbPtls&index=2[/video]


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[video=youtube;lNNDJvN0oPM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNNDJvN0oPM&index=1&list=PLm6YUpzR2qAyi5Ia 4bDUUN6cTBLK_kf-Y[/video] [video=youtube;blYczum4abI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blYczum4abI&list=PLm6YUpzR2qAyi5Ia4bDUUN6c TBLK_kf-Y&index=2[/video]


And see the playlist at https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLm6YUpzR2qAyi5Ia4bDUUN6cTBLK_kf-Y .

Sure, some of these are mere concepts, but others are fully realized products available for purchase, and they all suggest interesting variations on the idea of "expansion" via drop-down decks.

Here again I probably should reassure everyone that I only posted videos of some of the wilder and crazier concept-designs, in order to suggest just how literally "out of the box" designers are now thinking when it comes to re-using containers. But my own personal preference vis-a-vis TerraLiner design is something much more analogous to the Paradise Motorhomes expedition vehicle. Slide-outs will still expand the interior space of the TerraLiner, and the drop-down decks will remain just that, i.e. outdoor decks. Furthermore, as already indicated, I'd like the TerraLiner's deck awnings to be very robust retractable fabric set within a robust "pergola" frame. I would not want the TerraLiner's awnings to be solid as per the decks.



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Finally, here are some concept images of a “floating house”, probably called that because it's not exactly a houseboat of the kind one ordinarily sees. It has a massive amount of surrounding deck surface, and is very “open” to the surrounding view, in exactly the same way that I would like the TerraLiner to be:








See http://www.designboom.com/architect...le-house-for-calming-wate-retreat-11-19-2013/ . Again, these images are evocative, not declarative, and once more, I am not particularly fond of the hyper-rectilinear interior design. But these concept sketches do a good job capturing the "romance" of living near or on the water, and they capture the spaciousness of an ocean view.

Although the TerraLiner will not float on the water, one could imagine it parked on a beach or beside the shore of a lake, with the decks dropped down, and the water seeming to begin where the decks end......

All best wishes,



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New direction kinda like this?

http://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/threads/32893-Aussie-unimog

 

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Hi Joe,

Not sure if I am reading the images properly, but there does not appear to be a drop-down deck:







The side merely flips up, exposing a huge set of sliding-doors/sliding-screens, and this flip-up side becomes a hard awning. Whereas what I've been imagining is the exact opposite, with the side flipping down, not up; and a merely fabric awning supported by a "pergola" frame providing shade. With the fabric of course covered by thin-film flexible solar panels. Even still, I very much like the huge sliding-doors/sliding-screens part of the design, and the aspiration to visually and physically connect the camper interior to the outside. So many thanks for posting this, and yes, very much "kinda like this"....:victory:

Gosh, you Australians sure are terrific when it comes to motorhome design experimentation!!



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1. The Unsuitablity of the Unimog Chassis


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Now Joe, I fully realize that you posted this image to suggest how other people have also be thinking that it would be nice to have a well-lit motorhome interior, one with sliding doors that lead directly outside. You posted this image because of the sliding doors, not because it's a Unimog. But I would like to use this vehicle as an opportunity to slam hard on the Unimog as a possible chassis for a 12 m motorhome, just in case anyone might get the wrong "message" from the image that you posted.

I really liked the comments in the ExPo thread that discusses this vehicle, especially the concerns expressed about the unsuitability of a Unimog as a base-chassis for a motorhome that won't do that much off-road driving: "But a Unimog is an odd choice of platform for that kind of thing, I'd have thought. Unimogs have low power to weight ratio..... cramped cabin, poor road performance, poor economy etc etc. As he can't use the superb off-road abilities of a Unimog (the payback for all those disadvantages)...." See http://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/threads/32893-Aussie-unimog?p=479143#post479143 . Given that the TerraLiner has been defined as merely a "bad road capable" vehicle right from the beginning, the Unimog always struck me as totally inappropriate.

There's also the size factor. If memory serves, a while back Mercedes made a Unimog with 3 axles, but today the Unimog has just has two -- see http://www2.mercedes-benz.co.uk/con...MEDIA.tmp/U4023-U5023TechnicalInformation.pdf . The current Unimog is a relatively small vehicle, only 6 m long, so when Bran Ferren used a Unimog in the Kiravan, he had to modify the chassis both by lengthening it and adding a third axle. In the above vehicle the chassis lengthening resulted in a vehicle that's not very good in sand, because it's so long, and yet still has only two axles -- see http://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/threads/32893-Aussie-unimog?p=478633#post478633 .



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2. The Flexing Camper Body of Larry Perkins' Unimog Conversion


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Iain, I also could not help but notice in the article describing Larry Perkins' Unimog conversion, that there is a very ominous sentence which states that not only the frame twists, but so too, the camper body (!!!:Wow1: !!!) -- see http://www.drive.com.au/motor-news/perkins-swaps-racetrack-for-outback-20110525-1f4vs.html :

By using flat sheet metal, Perkins was able to use industrial-strength adhesive to fix the external panels to the superstructure, reducing weight and providing some degree of flex in off-road situations.

In other words, even a total Petrol-Head like Larry Perkins, with his own massive workshop, could not adapt the Unimog flexible chassis sufficiently to accommodate a completely rigid, fully integrated camper body. That's no doubt why the interior of Perkin's conversion so comparatively spartan and nondescript, with furniture perhaps designed so that it merely secures to the floor, and not to the camper body side-walls, which will flex:







It should go without saying that this is absolutely not a design precedent for the TerraLiner!

The exterior of the Perkins conversion is OK, but it's not a Newell, if only because Perkins simply stuck a Kenworth K104 Aerodyne truck cab on the front. The change in roof height between cab and camper, and the skylights behind the cab, are interesting design details; they remind me of the 1950's-era Flxible Vista Liner and Greyhound Scenicruiser, and of course the "Tatra Around the World" 815 GTC, discussed at length earlier in the thread -- see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flxible , http://flxibleowners.org/breeds-of-flxibles/ , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PD-4501_Scenicruiser , and see post #288 and following, at http://www.expeditionportal.com/for...igid-Torsion-Free-Frame?p=1599393#post1599393 :









It's also interesting to learn that the Perkins conversion carries"1100 litres of water, 700 litres of diesel fuel, 300 litres of grey water and 120 litres of black water". That's a lot of a water compared to its overall weight, which is a very light 7.1 tons, and once again suggests just how important designing for maximal possible water autonomy will be.

But no, I am absolutely not interested in the weight figure of 7.1 tons, or trying to aspire to it as a target, because the TerraLiner will not be designed to rock-crawl off-road.


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3. Unimogs are not Designed for On-Road Driving


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Furthermore, because Mercedes no longer makes an overdrive "splitter" gearbox option for the Unimog, a gearbox that provides reasonably good gas mileage and speed on highways, Perkins had to build his own -- see http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mellor.nsf/story2/B19E622B38E703E4CA257CED001B6FA4 :

He said that when he drove the new Unimog about 3000km from his home in Melbourne to the West Australian outback, he found driving at 80km/h a chore, as well as potentially dangerous on roads where most vehicles travel at 110km/h. “I don't want to make a race car out of my Unimog, but at 80km/h on a road in Australia, you are a danger to everyone else,”he said. “It is bad news.” Mr Perkins wanted to be able to drive at 100km/h instead of the recommended 80km/h, with the five-litre, four-cylinder diesel engine revving at a more sensible 1800rpm instead of 2300-2400rpm.

“They (Unimog) needed this overdrive," he said. Mr Perkins said the current Unimog had not been designed for the long-distance highway travel favoured by Australia's grey nomads. "It was not designed for the sort of things guys like me get up to,"he said.“So I said to Mercedes, ‘I am going to do this'.”

Mr Perkins said his device was fitted to the back of the regular engine, replacing the original automated gearbox - an eight speeder with a low-range drive - with his splitter unit that offers up to 32 ratios. One of the biggest benefits is a top gear that is 22 per cent taller than the regular gear, allowing faster but more relaxed highway cruising at a lower fuel consumption.

“At 100km/h towing my trailer (carrying a diesel-powered quad bike), the original fuel consumption was about 31 litres per 100km, which is quite high, but when you put the overdrive in it, it instantly comes back down to 24-25L/100km,”he said. “If you drove the truck as it was designed around 80km/h, the fuel consumption was considerably less than 30L/100km. But 80km/h is just too slow for Australian highways.”

Sure, this proved so successful that Perkins has turned his custom overdrive "splitter" gearbox into a commercial venture, approved by Mercedes, and it will now be produced by an aftermarket supplier in Germany. But I find all such details very interesting and very damning: they demonstrate just how unsuitable a Unimog actually is for global travel, if merely "bad road driving" is the primary specification, and if off-road rock-crawling capability is simply not needed. For the TerraLiner, a Unimog chassis is overkill in all the wrong ways, it's too small, and it flexes too much.

Once again, the "Rigid Torsion Free Frame" parameter in this thread's title should be enough to bury this issue once and for all, and I should not have to add something like,

Twisting Unimog and Zetros chassis frames will absolutely not be open for discussion, and the title of this thread is not "Compare and contrast the relative benefits of a flexible base chassis versus a torsion-free chassis for a fully integrated motorhome design"

I couldn't add that to the title block in any case, because it's too long. But it should be clear enough, given that the thread title contains the words "Rigid Torsion Free Frame".

Iain, I wrote all of that simply for emphasis, just in case some might get the wrong idea, simply because I've posted additional images of the Perkins' conversion. But I wanted to thank you for posting the image and a link to to the article. This conversion once more suggests that when people really start thinking about expedition motorhome design, and when they have time and money available, "Fully Integrated" is the natural way to go.

Furthermore, I also couldn't help but notice that Perkins has no less than three separate vehicles, the other two much shorter and even better suited to rock-climbing. He only built this long conversion so that he could also explore the Australian outback with his wife. Here again we run into what egn so deftly described as the WAF: the "Wife Acceptance Factor". Those recommending different vehicle formats and sizes on ExPo often seem completely oblivious to the "WAF", perhaps because many of them are single males? But from a motorhome designer's point of view, the WAF is a huge and important consideration. And so I find it interesting that Perkins' wife does not accompany him on camping trips when he uses his smaller Unimogs......:sombrero:


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4. Small and mid-size motorhomes will contain useful design features worth posting in this thread


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The bigger issue is this. Although the focus of this thread is on larger motorhomes and even "mobile houses", there is no question that small and mid-size motorhome examples will come up now and again, because they might illustrate some particularly attractive design feature, for instance, an entryway that also has a shower, as per the 4x4 "Veky" built by a Portuguese architect – see post #454 at http://www.expeditionportal.com/for...igid-Torsion-Free-Frame?p=1646656#post1646656 and following.

Consider: the expedition vehicle made by Paradise Motorhomes is certainly mid-sized. But it's not the fact that this vehicle is mid-sized that was interesting for this thread, and that's not the reason why Joe first posted it. For Joe's original post, see #826 at http://www.expeditionportal.com/for...igid-Torsion-Free-Frame?p=1681625#post1681625 , and for my subsequent posts with more images, see posts #879 to #884 at http://www.expeditionportal.com/for...igid-Torsion-Free-Frame?p=1726998#post1726998 and following; posts #912 to #914 at http://www.expeditionportal.com/for...igid-Torsion-Free-Frame?p=1730658#post1730658 and following; post #944 at http://www.expeditionportal.com/for...igid-Torsion-Free-Frame?p=1733451#post1733451 ; and post #1814 at http://www.expeditionportal.com/for...igid-Torsion-Free-Frame?p=1932489#post1932489 .

Here is a fairly comprehensive gallery that collects most of the images previously posted in one place, especially those relevant to the idea of drop-down decks. I thought it would be good to post the gallery here, because these images will resonate with the images posted previously of mobile beach houses that have expansive decks:








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