The 2016 Toyota Tacoma Revealed

[bkg]

If you're going to continue to compare apples to oranges instead of apple to apples while refusing to answer any questions, there is no point continuing a discussion.

 

[toylandcruiser]

If you're going to continue to compare apples to oranges instead of apple to apples while refusing to answer any questions, there is no point continuing a discussion.

Answered everything you asked. You have yet to answer me. So I'm done as well. It's crazy I asked my 10 year old niece this question and she grasped it a lot easier than you.


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[SDDiver5]

So we're done here?

 

[SSF556]

so the 2016 tacoma still has drum brakes in the rear?....


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[Dances with Wolves]

Yes,according to Toyota Tacoma chief engineer Mike Sweers. Toyota improved the drums brakes with a new vacuum booster and a new antilock braking system to improve how the brakes feel, reduce fade and improve stopping distance.

"Based on these changes and the proven durability of our braking system, the disc/drum was determined to meet all of our criterial for on- and off-road performance and maintain proper brake surface temperatures," he said. "Bottom line is that disc/drum or disc/disc setup will give you similar performance and stopping distance based on system cooling and/or temperature buildup. Disc brakes provide better cooling and reduced mass over drum systems. Drums provide less exposed braking surface and less brake vibration due to braking surface flatness [rotor warping] concerns resulting from overheating of surface".

 

[SSF556]

Yes,according to Toyota Tacoma chief engineer Mike Sweers. Toyota improved the drums brakes with a new vacuum booster and a new antilock braking system to improve how the brakes feel, reduce fade and improve stopping distance.

"Based on these changes and the proven durability of our braking system, the disc/drum was determined to meet all of our criterial for on- and off-road performance and maintain proper brake surface temperatures," he said. "Bottom line is that disc/drum or disc/disc setup will give you similar performance and stopping distance based on system cooling and/or temperature buildup. Disc brakes provide better cooling and reduced mass over drum systems. Drums provide less exposed braking surface and less brake vibration due to braking surface flatness [rotor warping] concerns resulting from overheating of surface".

Alrighty then....

 

[moonshiner]

The almighty Hilux also have rear drum brakes. Including the new one that will go on sale this fall.

 

[deuxdiesel]

I am disappointed in the "new" Tacoma Gen 2.5. Yes, it has a new engine, and a lot of little tweaks, but isn't nearly the quantum leap that the 2005 was over the previous versions. I know the Taco fanboys on TW are excited about the new iteration, but if you were looking to build a solid expo truck, it would be better to save money and buy a 5 year old 2nd Gen and build it up. With prices starting at $30K for a base model 4WD, it's no bargain either.

 

[Dances with Wolves]

I see no great leap forward. I'm keeping my '13 for the long haul. It's the best year since it's the last year with the temp/compass mirror and the cool retro dash clock.

 

[moonshiner]

Many of us prefer the ride and handling of a boxed frame that provides a stiffer chassis. It absolutely makes a difference, especially off road. I don't care if it is "stronger" by your definition of being able to carry more weight, I prefer a more rigid frame. Simple as that. I had an 06 F150 with a fully boxed frame and welded cross members and it felt so much more confident over uneven surfaces and off road compared to a Tundra, and compared to the previous generation of F150. I could pull the truck onto something and lift a tire, and all of the body lines still lined up just right. Doors opened and closed with ease. No squeaking or creaking of the cab or bed. Which is more than I can say for most every C channel truck I've owned.

Continual twisting of the cab off road is putting stress on every joint. Does it mean anything is going to fail, probably not. But in the long run it won't be as tight as it would have been on a more rigid chassis.

They probably use a boxed frame overseas because the truck is used more as a truck there. Hauling more weight and used off road more. Most Americans commute in their truck and drive to the grocery store and couldn't care less about what's going on underneath. It is a cost saving measure like the rear drum brakes. Nobody wants drum brakes off road, what a stupid argument (but one that most Americans have no clue about, and would accept as credible). Toyota will tell their fan boys and soon they will start bragging about how they have the only modern truck with drum brakes.

If you want a stiffer chassis, get a Ridgeline. The stiffest BOF pales in comparison to a unibody in terms of stiffness. Too many people confuse stiffness and strength. The new Hilux has a more flexible frame than the old one yet is stronger according to Toyota.

http://truckyeah.jalopnik.com/2016-toyota-hilux-this-is-it-1705985008

 

[dman93]

My 2010 Subaru was speced to meet 2015 standards as such no smog testing needed till 2015 etc. Our 2001 VW was speced to meet 2006 standards hence no need to smog it till 2006. The new Ford Fusion we just purchased meets the 2018 standards so no requirements to have it smogged till then.

California doesn't require the bi-ennial smog check for the first five years of a new vehicle's registration renewal. Each example you give is five years. It has nothing to do with meeting future standards.

 

[Clutch]

So we're done here?

 

[speedtre]

I never really liked the 2nd Gen. The increased power was offset by the increased size. No significant difference in MPG and the interior was bleh....yes, I know the interior of the first gen Tacoma's was "spartan" but some of us preferred cheap and "spartan" to cheap and "overdone." If Toyota would sell me a brand new 2004 double cab 4x4 TRD for $25K today, I'd buy it over a 2nd or 3rd gen for what they cost. I just like the simple nature of it, but it still had some valuable safety accoutrements like ABS (I like ABS for double duty trucks, the hardcore off-road crowd can sue me ) and dual front airbags.

Having said that I prefer the 3rd gen to the 2nd gen, at least on paper and pictures. Thankfully it didn't get bigger, the engine is more powerful, the interior seems much nicer and, IMHO, the styling lines are cleaner. The 2nd gen always looked to me like it was trying too hard to look "TOUGH", while the 3rd gen has a more subtle look to it (at least profile wise). I'm disappointed with the engine options for the 3rd gen though...I would have really liked a TD or even a smaller TG option, but that is now how Toyota works. They are always conservative with their engine choices in their trucks. The 4.0 was several years-old before it was the "new" engine for the "all-new" 2005 2nd Gen Tacoma. Toyota is a conservative company and I don't see that changing.

 

[Dalko43]

Don't we already have a thread on this topic?

http://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/threads/135566-2015-2016-New-3rd-gen-Tacoma-Debut-in-Detriot

 

[Mrknowitall]

I was poking around on a Toyota Europe page to see if anything new had come about for the Landcruiser, as to...blablabla- nothing, but I found some interesting Hilux bits- the new 6-speed manual has a 4.784 1st gear and a huge 0.643 6th gear, for a whopping 7.44 ratio spread. If that same gearbox is what's coming to the Tacoma, that sucker would be SWEEET!
...and nevermind- the product information sheet is out- no dice, no love.