The 255/85R16 Tire Official List
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Redline
Likes to Drive and Ride
Great idea for a comprehensive thread of "THE" light-truck tire size... It should have been much more popular than it was in the heyday of the 16-inch wheel which is now slowly leaving us as new trucks come with 17-20-inch wheels.
A few comments:
Trailcutter R/T
I saw these treads for the first time on Desert Dude’s trailer at the ‘07 ExPo Trophy. I believe El Dorado Tire is owned by Cooper and this tire is made on the same casing as the Cooper ST and Dean SXT in LT255/85R16. The specs for all three tires are the same.
Remington
I was going to start a new thread about the Remington Mud Brute, glad to see you posted it up here. My local independent (wrong side of the tracks) tire dealer where I purchased my Cooper STs told me a couple days ago that (Goodyear) was reintroducing the Remington Mud Brute tread in the LT255/85R16 tread. He will have a set for me to inspect next week.
He also explained the historical hierarchy of Goodyear's product line-
#1 Goodyear
#2 Dunlop
#3 Kelly-Springfield
#4 Remington
His comment was that Goodyear really let Dunlop falter in recent years as a brand, and that has Goodyear wanted to sell only high-end/expensive tires, but that hasn’t worked for them. Private label, less expensive tires certainly have a place.
Looking at the specs on Remington's site http://www.remingtontire.us/Pages II/home.html it looks like the Mud Brute may be a reincarnated Dunlop Mud Rover. Maybe it was made on the same casing when they were both in production? The reason I say this is that the specs listed for the Mud Brute indicate it may be the largest LT255/85R16 tire currently in production with an overall height of 33.6-inches. I think this was the same height of the old Mud Rover and I think the next tallest 255/85 is the Toyo MT at 33.5-inches. Also, the Mud Brute has a whopping 10.8" section width! Most 255/85s are about 10.3 inches wide. This could be a negative depending on the clearance on your platform. These Mud Brutes 'only' have 17/32" of tread, a little on the shallow side for my preference on a new MT tire, I prefer 18-20 if I can get it.
Looking at the high void ratio in pictures I think it may be a loud tire. Depending on how they balance the Mud Brute may be a very good 'economy' MT in 255/85. I don't know what the regular retail price should be for this tire, but my local independent dealer said he can currently sell me these tires for a mere $125.00 each! I don’t think he would be making any money on me, but the price is tempting.
Dean SXT
The Dean SXT had been available in 255/85 for several years from Les Schwab in the West, not sure about other parts of North America.
Big-O
I called Big-O within the past several weeks about 255/85 treads but just called my local shop again to confirm; they no longer make the Bigfoot AT or XT in 255/85R16. The only thing my local store is selling in 255/85 is the BFG KM2 which is currently on national back order.
Maxxis
Maxxis has been helpful when I have called with technical or availability questions. I was recently told the Creepy Crawler is not offered in the U.S. in the 255/85R16 size.
A few comments:
Trailcutter R/T
I saw these treads for the first time on Desert Dude’s trailer at the ‘07 ExPo Trophy. I believe El Dorado Tire is owned by Cooper and this tire is made on the same casing as the Cooper ST and Dean SXT in LT255/85R16. The specs for all three tires are the same.
Remington
I was going to start a new thread about the Remington Mud Brute, glad to see you posted it up here. My local independent (wrong side of the tracks) tire dealer where I purchased my Cooper STs told me a couple days ago that (Goodyear) was reintroducing the Remington Mud Brute tread in the LT255/85R16 tread. He will have a set for me to inspect next week.
He also explained the historical hierarchy of Goodyear's product line-
#1 Goodyear
#2 Dunlop
#3 Kelly-Springfield
#4 Remington
His comment was that Goodyear really let Dunlop falter in recent years as a brand, and that has Goodyear wanted to sell only high-end/expensive tires, but that hasn’t worked for them. Private label, less expensive tires certainly have a place.
Looking at the specs on Remington's site http://www.remingtontire.us/Pages II/home.html it looks like the Mud Brute may be a reincarnated Dunlop Mud Rover. Maybe it was made on the same casing when they were both in production? The reason I say this is that the specs listed for the Mud Brute indicate it may be the largest LT255/85R16 tire currently in production with an overall height of 33.6-inches. I think this was the same height of the old Mud Rover and I think the next tallest 255/85 is the Toyo MT at 33.5-inches. Also, the Mud Brute has a whopping 10.8" section width! Most 255/85s are about 10.3 inches wide. This could be a negative depending on the clearance on your platform. These Mud Brutes 'only' have 17/32" of tread, a little on the shallow side for my preference on a new MT tire, I prefer 18-20 if I can get it.
Looking at the high void ratio in pictures I think it may be a loud tire. Depending on how they balance the Mud Brute may be a very good 'economy' MT in 255/85. I don't know what the regular retail price should be for this tire, but my local independent dealer said he can currently sell me these tires for a mere $125.00 each! I don’t think he would be making any money on me, but the price is tempting.
Dean SXT
The Dean SXT had been available in 255/85 for several years from Les Schwab in the West, not sure about other parts of North America.
Big-O
I called Big-O within the past several weeks about 255/85 treads but just called my local shop again to confirm; they no longer make the Bigfoot AT or XT in 255/85R16. The only thing my local store is selling in 255/85 is the BFG KM2 which is currently on national back order.
Maxxis
Maxxis has been helpful when I have called with technical or availability questions. I was recently told the Creepy Crawler is not offered in the U.S. in the 255/85R16 size.
Dunlop Rozmiar: 255/85R16
http://www.opony.com.pl/opony/opony...rozmiar=255/85R16&rodzaj=4x4&pora_roku=&link=
http://www.opony.com.pl/opony/opony...rozmiar=255/85R16&rodzaj=4x4&pora_roku=&link=
Mastercraft Rozmiar: 255/85R16
http://www.opony.com.pl/opony/opony...rozmiar=255/85R16&rodzaj=4x4&pora_roku=&link=
http://www.opony.com.pl/opony/opony...rozmiar=255/85R16&rodzaj=4x4&pora_roku=&link=
stevenmd
Expedition Leader
Remington Mud Brute
RESEARCH BY REDLINE: Thank You!
Looking at the specs on Remington's site http://www.remingtontire.us/Pages II/home.html it looks like the Mud Brute may be a reincarnated Dunlop Mud Rover. Maybe it was made on the same casing when they were both in production? The reason I say this is that the specs listed for the Mud Brute indicate it may be the largest LT255/85R16 tire currently in production with an overall height of 33.6-inches. I think this was the same height of the old Mud Rover and I think the next tallest 255/85 is the Toyo MT at 33.5-inches. Also, the Mud Brute has a whopping 10.8" section width! Most 255/85s are about 10.3 inches wide. This could be a negative depending on the clearance on your platform. These Mud Brutes 'only' have 17/32" of tread, a little on the shallow side for my preference on a new MT tire, I prefer 18-20 if I can get it.
Looking at the high void ratio in pictures I think it may be a loud tire. Depending on how they balance the Mud Brute may be a very good 'economy' MT in 255/85. I don't know what the regular retail price should be for this tire, but my local independent dealer said he can currently sell me these tires for a mere $125.00 each! I don’t think he would be making any money on me, but the price is tempting.
Very good tire. Yes, it is a rebranded Dunlop Mud Rover. I put over 50,000 miles on my last set and beat the crap out of them off road. I recommend this tire.
Redline
Likes to Drive and Ride
Maybe listing tires not readily available in the USA/North America will dilute your thread...
There are many interesting tires in other markets and in other sizes that we can't buy (easily) here. A search on both Mastercraft's and Dunlop's websites shows no results for 255/85R16
Dunlop Rozmiar: 255/85R16
http://www.opony.com.pl/opony/opony_...ra_roku=&link=
There are many interesting tires in other markets and in other sizes that we can't buy (easily) here. A search on both Mastercraft's and Dunlop's websites shows no results for 255/85R16
Dunlop Rozmiar: 255/85R16
http://www.opony.com.pl/opony/opony_...ra_roku=&link=
Mastercraft Rozmiar: 255/85R16
http://www.opony.com.pl/opony/opony...rozmiar=255/85R16&rodzaj=4x4&pora_roku=&link=
seashore
Observer
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Redline
Likes to Drive and Ride
I'm not surprised.
I was surprised when Toyo came out with their MT in 255/85 recently.
I was surprised when Toyo came out with their MT in 255/85 recently.
Redline
Likes to Drive and Ride
I saw one of these in person today. It's one impressive, aggressive, high void mud tire. Though Remington Tire's site says it only has 17/32" of tread, the one I handled had a measured 18/32". Tugging on the sidewall it felt quite stiff/firm, as if the sidewall might be pretty tough (2-ply design). The tread is 6-ply, 2 polyester, 2 steel, and 2 nylon pies! I bet it flat-spots in the cold but it might be pretty rugged. With the substantial void I'm confident it's very loud. I would consider a set as my next off-highway/aggressive tire because the price is right if it wasn’t for the noise. For now I think I'll stay with Maxxis Bighorns. Though I may buy one as a spare. Wonder how they balance?
Remington Mud Brute
RESEARCH BY REDLINE: Thank You!
Looking at the specs on Remington's site http://www.remingtontire.us/Pages II/home.html it looks like the Mud Brute may be a reincarnated Dunlop Mud Rover. Maybe it was made on the same casing when they were both in production? The reason I say this is that the specs listed for the Mud Brute indicate it may be the largest LT255/85R16 tire currently in production with an overall height of 33.6-inches. I think this was the same height of the old Mud Rover and I think the next tallest 255/85 is the Toyo MT at 33.5-inches. Also, the Mud Brute has a whopping 10.8" section width! Most 255/85s are about 10.3 inches wide. This could be a negative depending on the clearance on your platform. These Mud Brutes 'only' have 17/32" of tread, a little on the shallow side for my preference on a new MT tire, I prefer 18-20 if I can get it.
Looking at the high void ratio in pictures I think it may be a loud tire. Depending on how they balance the Mud Brute may be a very good 'economy' MT in 255/85. I don't know what the regular retail price should be for this tire, but my local independent dealer said he can currently sell me these tires for a mere $125.00 each! I don’t think he would be making any money on me, but the price is tempting.
