Tire Size + Gearing Debate Time

What tire size and gear combo?

  • 235/85s + 4.56

    Votes: 4 20.0%
  • 255/85s + 4.88

    Votes: 16 80.0%

  • Total voters
    20

red87

Adventurer
I have an 87 4x4 pickup with OME suspension, ball joint spacers and an Aussie Locker. Currently I'm on 31s with stock gearing (4.10s). I have 4.56s sitting in my garage that I got a good deal on but haven't installed yet. I also have a set of 16" tacoma rims waiting for tires. I planned on running those gears with some 235/85s but now I've been thinking 4.88s and 255/85s would be a better idea. I don't really plan on any crazy rock crawling with this truck, I bought it to explore more places off the beaten path. What do you guys think? What would you do in my shoes? Remember I'm working on a college student's budget here.
 

Desolation

Adventurer
I would not hesitate to run ether tire on 4.56:1 gears.
So, my input would be which tire fits the truck/application/budget better?
 

TangoBlue

American Adventurist
Engine displacement, transmission, and weight of mods (trail armor) also enters into the equation. None of which is included in the OP - that would help a lot better make a recommendation. See my sig block.
 

Dave Bennett

Adventurist
1987... you have a 22RE, no?

With that and a 5 speed (I'm assuming) and 255/85R16's... I would go with deeper gears ala 4.88's, BUT...

You say you have a set of 4.56's already in the garage?

I say run what you have man! :smiley_drive:
 

red87

Adventurer
Engine displacement, transmission, and weight of mods (trail armor) also enters into the equation. None of which is included in the OP - that would help a lot better make a recommendation. See my sig block.

I've got a 22R backed with a 5-speed. Currently I have All-Pro sliders and plan on getting the Marlin rear bumper at some point along with some sort of tube-ish front bumper and a Budbuilt cross member.
 

CYi5

Explorer
4.56 and 235/85's. How often are you going to use that extra .7" of ground clearance with the 4.88? Ok, all the time...but realistically, pick good lines. Install before grand canyon!
 
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CYi5

Explorer
Zip. Your truck doesn't have a ton of low hanging items either does it? I know your front is pretty flat, and the rear you could just do a u-bolt flip. When are you going to tackle your next rock garden? ;)
 

78Bronco

Explorer
If I was in your shoes I would run the 235's with the 4.56:1 ratio for several reasons.

Running 255's limits your tire choices to just a few tires. The 235's are very available in any tread by any number of mfg's and because of this it will be easier for you to keep a tight budget. It will be easy to find used tires with lots of tread for uber cheap. You aren't going to gain a lot of additional ground clearance by selecting the limited production 255's.

You have 4:56:1 gears already so get them installed.:victory: This will save you lots of hassle selling the 4.56 gears and sourcing the 4.88's and paying shipping and more tax.

The money you save can be put towards other things.


I have 33x10.5's with 4.88's and it goes pretty good. I would rather spend the money on lower 3.15 t-case gears than regearing the diffs.
 

Bogo

Adventurer
Trail rig, not rock crawling, keep your 31s and install the 4.56 diffs you got. Switch the aussie locker to the rear diff if possible. I'm assuming the 4.56 diffs don't have lockers, you didn't say. Going to 33s only gains you an inch of trail clearance.

31s are much easier to find replacements on the road and your gas mileage will stay respectable. They are a standard size. Spend the tire $$ on a selectable locker for the front or stretch the budget a bit and get selectable lockers for both front and rear. Selectable lockers will increase tire life and be better on the trail. If you go with selectable lockers you can add them to the 4.56 diffs on the bench then in a weekend install them on the truck.

Another possibility would be to spend some of the tire $$ on underbody armor. Budbuilt cross members give you a couple inches in the middle at the transfer case cross member without lifting or increasing tire size. What I like about the bud built is it keeps the stock transfer case mount.

If later on you want to increase tire size, adding Marlin Crawler's 4.7 transfer case gears will allow better trail performance despite not having the proper diff gearing.

If you do go with 16" tires, get load range E ones for the extra toughness.

Do you have a winch and recovery gear? That is another alternate place to spend the tire $$$. Read up on winching and recovery before buying. NO HOOKS!!!

There are allot of good threads over at ih8mud in the 79-95-toyota-truck-tech forum on picking gearing, tires, and lockers for older 4runners and pickups. Unlike pirate4x4 the people are civil.
 

mdnky

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I prefer the 255 option myself, but as someone noted already it does severely limit choice and availability. The 235/85-16 is readily available in most larger areas, especially if there's a good deal of fleet or farm use (older F250, F350).

Another option might be to sell the stock rims and buy a cheap set of 17" steel rims. Then use the 255/75-17 size jeep put on the JK Rubicons. The 4.56 you have should be fine with these. The BFG MT in that size can be had for a heck of a deal most of the time ($109-139 when on sale @ Tirerack).
 

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