ThundahBeagle
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100K for a Rav4? I'm sorry. It's not you, its me... I'd have to see that to beleive it.
Tired of Old Junk but no Interest in Newer 4x4s
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100K for a Rav4? I'm sorry. It's not you, its me... I'd have to see that to beleive it.
ThundahBeagle
Well-known member
Tell me you would take that 1967 Jeep on a 3,000 mile round trip road trip at highway speeds, say NYC to Orlando and back within a week, and I'd have to give you a little side eye.
The 03 Toyota - sure. If maintained at all, that should do it.
To me, Audi is not, and never has been a typical motor vehicle. They are expensive, not terribly reliable for the money and cost a lot to maintain. I've felt that way since the 90's. So I'm not sure that particular comparison holds water
these anecdotal tales are hilarious... talk about having to work on vehicles, back in the '80's i used to daily drive air-cooled vw's on so cal freeways, including a 2110cc with dual dellortos and a 2007cc blow-thru turbocharged rig... i got really good at adjusting valves :-0 and did several engine rebuilds.
12 years ago i got an '86 4runner with a solid axle swap and a bunch of expensive gearing, and then threw more money at it; the biggest problem with those trucks was the weak axle housings that bend too easily and the undocumented wire splice crimps that the dealers did to the 22re engine harness... the connections corroded and it was an intermittent troubleshooting nightmare; 3vz-fe is better but have you ever adjusted the valves? it's a long convoluted procedure that uses different thicknesses of discs to make up the clearance :-/ that's why nobody does it.
one big problem these days is the lack of parts for both new and used vehicles... there are literally hundreds of brand new broncos parked on lots, rotting in the sun while they wait for chips... i looked up the cheap relays that i used to fix the rear window motor circuit board on my 4runner, it's a very common part but none of the component houses like mauser had it in stock... several weeks ago the ignitor for my 22re died, it's used on brands besides toyota and it's listed under a dozen different part numbers, but OOS everywhere... etc. etc.
toyota was way ahead of gm in the mid '80's, the 22re had port injection while the gm 350 engines used that primitive and inefficient tbi well into the 90's... jeep used carbs until 1991, with a fuel return line like you have on efi, and a spagetti nightmare of hoses, with intake and exhaust both on the same side of the motor :-0 who engineered that disaster?
where modern toyota fails is with computerized complexity, like all modern cars, but also with butt-ugly body styling... the current boxy macho front end design just doesn't work, first-gen tacoma was the last good-looking truck that toyota did... toyota is not alone with that, you'd have to go with some of the new ev truck designs to get a good body style.
12 years ago i got an '86 4runner with a solid axle swap and a bunch of expensive gearing, and then threw more money at it; the biggest problem with those trucks was the weak axle housings that bend too easily and the undocumented wire splice crimps that the dealers did to the 22re engine harness... the connections corroded and it was an intermittent troubleshooting nightmare; 3vz-fe is better but have you ever adjusted the valves? it's a long convoluted procedure that uses different thicknesses of discs to make up the clearance :-/ that's why nobody does it.
one big problem these days is the lack of parts for both new and used vehicles... there are literally hundreds of brand new broncos parked on lots, rotting in the sun while they wait for chips... i looked up the cheap relays that i used to fix the rear window motor circuit board on my 4runner, it's a very common part but none of the component houses like mauser had it in stock... several weeks ago the ignitor for my 22re died, it's used on brands besides toyota and it's listed under a dozen different part numbers, but OOS everywhere... etc. etc.
toyota was way ahead of gm in the mid '80's, the 22re had port injection while the gm 350 engines used that primitive and inefficient tbi well into the 90's... jeep used carbs until 1991, with a fuel return line like you have on efi, and a spagetti nightmare of hoses, with intake and exhaust both on the same side of the motor :-0 who engineered that disaster?
where modern toyota fails is with computerized complexity, like all modern cars, but also with butt-ugly body styling... the current boxy macho front end design just doesn't work, first-gen tacoma was the last good-looking truck that toyota did... toyota is not alone with that, you'd have to go with some of the new ev truck designs to get a good body style.
billiebob
Well-known member
Any new 4x4 is a $50K plus investment and for me, they include a thousand things I do not want. They even too complex for trained dealership mechanics to trouble shoot. If they die you need a deack truck to a dealer.
Go to Bring a Trailer with a $50K budget and buy what fits yer fancy.
Last week,,,, hard to get more basic, field fixable, reliable than this....
bringatrailer.com
Go to Bring a Trailer with a $50K budget and buy what fits yer fancy.
Last week,,,, hard to get more basic, field fixable, reliable than this....
1974 Toyota Land Cruiser FJ45
Bid for the chance to own a 1974 Toyota Land Cruiser FJ45 at auction with Bring a Trailer, the home of the best vintage and classic cars online. Lot #75,426.
bringatrailer.com
vintageracer
To Infinity and Beyond!
Any new 4x4 is a $50K plus investment and for me, they include a thousand things I do not want.
1974 Toyota Land Cruiser FJ45
Bid for the chance to own a 1974 Toyota Land Cruiser FJ45 at auction with Bring a Trailer, the home of the best vintage and classic cars online. Lot #75,426.
Any new 4x4 is NOT an "Investment".
It's an "Expenditure"!!
Todd780
OverCamper
Here ya go:
1,300-Mile 2006 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon 6-Speed
Bid for the chance to own a 1,300-Mile 2006 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon 6-Speed at auction with Bring a Trailer, the home of the best vintage and classic cars online. Lot #76,385.
bringatrailer.com
billiebob
Well-known member
Then theres this.... Nothing new about this.
bringatrailer.com
No Reserve: 13k-Mile 1997 Toyota Land Cruiser FZJ80
Bid for the chance to own a No Reserve: 13k-Mile 1997 Toyota Land Cruiser FZJ80 at auction with Bring a Trailer, the home of the best vintage and classic cars online. Lot #77,613.
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Regcabguy
Oil eater.
I bought a near new 1973 Landruiser. Rust on the gutter rails in less than a year,squeaks,manual steering that beat me to death offroad and when Japan copied the GM inline six they must have raised the compression ratio as it HATED Mexican Pemex and it took starting fluid to get it to fire up on wet coastal mornings down there. Myself and three others bought '85 Toyota small trucks and they ate 2.5 qts of oil every 3K oil change. Toyota said "within specs." Conversely,I drove a Hino medium duty truck at work for 240K grueling start/stop miles with maxed out loads. 4 banger with a non-electronic Allison. Hands down the most reliable vehicle I've ever had the pleasure to drive. Overbuilt to the max. I traded in the truck for a 1989 Chevy 3500. Antiquated TBI and Turbo 400 auto. Many,many Mexico runs and it never had an issue. They all have their strong and weakpoints.Any new 4x4 is a $50K plus investment and for me, they include a thousand things I do not want. They even too complex for trained dealership mechanics to trouble shoot. If they die you need a deack truck to a dealer.
Go to Bring a Trailer with a $50K budget and buy what fits yer fancy.
Last week,,,, hard to get more basic, field fixable, reliable than this....
1974 Toyota Land Cruiser FJ45
Bid for the chance to own a 1974 Toyota Land Cruiser FJ45 at auction with Bring a Trailer, the home of the best vintage and classic cars online. Lot #75,426.
vintageracer
To Infinity and Beyond!
It's NOT an "Investment" it's an EXPENSE!
Ozark_Prowler
Active member
When I see listings like this I just think about all the issues it’ll have from sitting so long.Here ya go:
View attachment 7269151,300-Mile 2006 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon 6-Speed
Bid for the chance to own a 1,300-Mile 2006 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon 6-Speed at auction with Bring a Trailer, the home of the best vintage and classic cars online. Lot #76,385.
DaveNay
Adventurer
I can smell the mouse nests from here.
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