Toyo MT 255/85R16 (and comparison pics)
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ashooter
Adventurer
Very similar to my use, though your rig is heavier. I have had both the MT and M55 and unless you are doing serious offroading, I would strongly recommend the M55. Lasts longer, rides smoother, grips great for all but the most serious mud or out through the brush type driving.
I've had my M55's for a couple of years now and they still have a lot of miles left in them. The MT's were pretty ragged out in the same time/mileage.
Also, the MT is NOT quieter than the M55. Actually it's noticeably louder, just a lower pitched rumble.
Redline
Likes to Drive and Ride
Agree with both statements. M55 is quieter, different (higher pitched) but quieter.
Toyo M/T can wear amazingly fast depending on the conditions...when I eventfully get around to finishing my blog thread on my recent purchase and use of Toyo M/T 255/85, I think some will be surprised at the rapid wear.
rideglobally
Adventurer
thanks ashooter and Redline, 99.9% decided that i am going with M55 255/85R16, my other question is what is the best width on the wheels 7" or 8". i already got the tire shop picked out i will be heading there this week or next, will keep you posted . i read almost all the post on this issue so i want to thank you all as well.
Redline
Likes to Drive and Ride
255/85R16 can be successfully used on 7", 7.5", and 8" wheels; I have. One could argue that 7" is ideal, though I never had a problem with the wider wheels, including low psi off-highway use on a Jeep and 4Runner. 7.5"-8" wheels will work perfectly with wider tires, like 285/75, should you move away from the 255/85 in the future.
I suggest using the wheels you have or like the most. Seven inch wheels are uncommon unless they are OE.
I suggest using the wheels you have or like the most. Seven inch wheels are uncommon unless they are OE.
rideglobally
Adventurer
i found these reasonably priced OE 7" wide i am picking them up tomm. will they be ok with 9000 pound vehicle?
REDrum
Aventurero de la Selva
thetanningman
Observer
Redline, I was just gonna ask about safe wheel width with the 255's. I air down to 8 psi when in the sand dunes and have an 8 inch wheel with my current 305/70r16's. Will I still be safe going as low on the 255's and how do you feel the floatation will compare to my 305's?
Thanks,
Pete
Thanks,
Pete
Redline
Likes to Drive and Ride
I don't know what those wheels are from or their weight rating, but the 7" wide will be fine/perfect.
Erik N
Adventurer
Check out the M55 thread. I had similar concerns before I bought the M55's.
http://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/threads/7861-Toyo-M-55?p=1171020#post1171020
Redline
Likes to Drive and Ride
I've driven on plenty of sand, though it's not my typical terrain, I wouldn't say I'm an expert on sand driving.
A 305 mm tire on an 8" wheel is on the narrow end of the wheel specs, so it's likely a very good, tight fit. A 255/85 on an 8" wheel won't be as snug, and as with all airing-down, the vehicle weight, weight distribution, speeds, terrain, etc., all matter. The stiffness of the tire and sidewall, as well as the safety bead design of the wheel are also factors.
Because the 305 has a wider footprint with approx. the same diameter (elongation being about the same as 255/85), it will give more flotation at given pressure if the tires flex the same. [For example, a 255/85 BFG MT will flex more than a 255/85 Toyo MT because the Toyo is a much stiffer tire. I've had great flex for a given terrain out of the BFT MT at about 15 psi where I might need Toyos down to 9-12.]
With all the caveats above, I'd suggest starting with something more conservative like 12-15 psi cold with a 255/85 on an 8" wheel, and then judge things by reading the tire’s performance and appearance. And of course have a way to seat the bead should it fall off.
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thetanningman
Observer
Thanks for your .03 Redline. I may split the difference and go a 285/75. Still lots of miles left on my Coop's.
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Pete
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Pete