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As stated, all manufacturers have design and build defects. Toyota "in general" handles them better. And most of their design defect "quirks" are easier to fix than many others. I don't like many of their product design choices. And I really don't like their dealers. Will I buy a new Tundra? Unlikely, but that has to do with how huge the hood is in relation to the engine, and the terrible sight lines; while all manufacturers are terrible with their sight lines these days, other trucks are less terrible as of right now - I want a pickup truck, not an aircraft carrier.
As someone who worked as a mechanic in college to pay for comp sci and EE courses, I actually find a number of things in modern engines significantly easier to diagnose and fix. I feel for the "hurr durr brain-box" crowd, and yes, connectors specifically in vehicles degrade over time, and chasing those electrical ghosts around racks up labour hours whose cost quickly exceeds that of the vehicle's value. I tell people that miles no longer matter, it's the electrical system, and each manufacturer builds them for a specific time span either by accident or design. Toyota's electrical connectors last longer than most, and along with fewer mechanical issues, the vehicles run better for longer than others.
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Ford has a higher rate of failure with the 5.0 Coyote Gen2 and Gen3 in their F-150's than Toyota does with the engine that is new for the Tundra, and owners are on the hook. Both the 7.3 and 6.8 "Godzilla" series have roller lifter issues at a rate about the same as the current gen Tundra - those are still within warranty (generally), but if the owner is out, the owner pays.
Stellantis 5.7 and 6.4 V8 engines have lifter roller failures, with or without MDS, and owners are left on the hook. And the problem has existed those engines came out.
GM's LS3 series have both roller lifter as well as rocker arm bearing failures here and there, with one or the other more prevalent in one vintage, displacement, or other factor, but owners are on the hook. The first fix from GM was to reduce the drivetrain warranty from 100k miles to 60. They also have a habit of burning a lot of oil under load. This is "normal" according to GM, where apparently a quart every 1500 miles or so is "fine" - I'll tell you, I have had two stroke motors that use less. This continues to their new 6.0L gas V8 in their HD trucks.
My point? Toyota says "ok, our bad" and at least owns this one. And with confidence they'll own whatever plagues the current Tacoma transmissions as well. Do they suck? Yep. But they suck less.
The 3URFE 5.7L issues currently raised in the clickbait YT video are maintenance related, along with coolant chemistry. Run a certain type of coolant too long, and it becomes acidic, and perhaps variance in coolants used at the factory over the 14 years the Tundra was in production cause it to happen more commonly with some than with others. Got it. Time to freak out? Nope.
Just like the 3URFE "cam tower leak" although that's a one-time fix if you do it right. Or the rear differential.
As someone who worked as a mechanic in college to pay for comp sci and EE courses, I actually find a number of things in modern engines significantly easier to diagnose and fix. I feel for the "hurr durr brain-box" crowd, and yes, connectors specifically in vehicles degrade over time, and chasing those electrical ghosts around racks up labour hours whose cost quickly exceeds that of the vehicle's value. I tell people that miles no longer matter, it's the electrical system, and each manufacturer builds them for a specific time span either by accident or design. Toyota's electrical connectors last longer than most, and along with fewer mechanical issues, the vehicles run better for longer than others.
You can TL
R the rest of my rant:Ford has a higher rate of failure with the 5.0 Coyote Gen2 and Gen3 in their F-150's than Toyota does with the engine that is new for the Tundra, and owners are on the hook. Both the 7.3 and 6.8 "Godzilla" series have roller lifter issues at a rate about the same as the current gen Tundra - those are still within warranty (generally), but if the owner is out, the owner pays.
Stellantis 5.7 and 6.4 V8 engines have lifter roller failures, with or without MDS, and owners are left on the hook. And the problem has existed those engines came out.
GM's LS3 series have both roller lifter as well as rocker arm bearing failures here and there, with one or the other more prevalent in one vintage, displacement, or other factor, but owners are on the hook. The first fix from GM was to reduce the drivetrain warranty from 100k miles to 60. They also have a habit of burning a lot of oil under load. This is "normal" according to GM, where apparently a quart every 1500 miles or so is "fine" - I'll tell you, I have had two stroke motors that use less. This continues to their new 6.0L gas V8 in their HD trucks.
My point? Toyota says "ok, our bad" and at least owns this one. And with confidence they'll own whatever plagues the current Tacoma transmissions as well. Do they suck? Yep. But they suck less.
The 3URFE 5.7L issues currently raised in the clickbait YT video are maintenance related, along with coolant chemistry. Run a certain type of coolant too long, and it becomes acidic, and perhaps variance in coolants used at the factory over the 14 years the Tundra was in production cause it to happen more commonly with some than with others. Got it. Time to freak out? Nope.
Just like the 3URFE "cam tower leak" although that's a one-time fix if you do it right. Or the rear differential.
