Trailer hitch connection?

slosurfer

Adventurer
While I think the lock n rolls are great, especially if you like it quiet, I'm still sold on the old pintle and lunnete combo. I used them just about everyday, during my time in the marines, towing and pushing 26ton+ amphibious assault vehicles through all types of terrain. (Mine rarely had to get towed:) ) I have also put over 6,000 miles on my m416, one was a trip that was 5,000 miles plus and never a bad wobble from it. I've even had it up to 40 mph+ through the Oceano dunes and while it does handle different in the sand it still tracked wonderfully. I would imagine the sand is one place you would really see the slop as the sand has a tendency to grab at the trailer wheels and pull it with the terrain, but I don't think it was any different than any of the other moints that have all the available movement.

Mainly my point is that many people who talk down on them have never used them, but read some scientific stuff about the slop and what "might" happen under exactly the right circumstances. I've actually had someone tell me that "lock n roll" was the way to go because it had more movement than my pintle and lunnete. I had to actually prove to him that my lunnete ring could twist 360degrees, to which he replied, "Oh, I don't know much about those."

From my experience, if you load your trailer wrong, you will notice long before you get up to speed that something is wrong. I also believe that if you have your trailer loaded wrong to the point where it is going to roll on you at speed, that there is a good chance that it would have rolled with any of these mounts that have the 360degree movement.

I think the important thing is having one that allows the trailer to flop without pulling the vehicle over, which these all are capable of. I just wouldn't jump into changing a strong and proven system on your military trailer, just because you saw something on the internet about what "might" happen. If you want to change it to something quieter, that's great, but it is a very good system.
 

Azrocks

Adventurer
RunninRubicon said:
I guess I'll just thow in a wrench here and say that I don't have an issue with the original ball hitch. I do pull a light-weight trailer-maybe 700lbs loaded but on only one occasion did I get things out of contol so bad that the trailer tried to roll-over. Because of the inherent limiting characteristics of the hitch it prevented this and kept the rubber side down. No harm no foul. PERHAPS in a heavier trailer the risk of damaging the hitch or flipping both rigs over could I see this an possibility. I see mine working well the way it is thanks.

x2. I really don't see the need to use anything other than a good ole fashioned 2" ball and good hitch. K.I.S. I just don't like all the added points of failure in the swivel designs. They will wear out over time. Just another opinion.
 
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Willman

Active member
^Ball hitches are not meant for hard offroad use.....Your trailer could flip you and your rig over on rough road.....Moab, Rubicon trail and others would eat a ball alive!

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A pintle hook or a Lock n' roll would be the only thing i would take offroad.

This is a huge safety thing.


Azrocks said:
....added points of failure in the swivel designs. They will wear out over time..

In my opinion, I don't think this a concern.....everything is solid and well lubed on mine.....



Just my two cents

;)


And.....Welcome to the ExPo Azrocks!
 
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MoGas

Central Scrutinizer
The Lock 'N Roll is great if you need quiet operation, but for my money a pintle hook with a swivel lunette is the only way to go as far as strength is concerned. What is the LNR rated to?
 

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