Trailer tongue weight distribution

67cj5

Man On a Mission
Euro incuding UK and down under standards are all calculated **very** differently from the US.

And actually enforced, as opposed to letting insurance sort it out
Yeah John if the insurance companies can wriggle out of paying which then leads to the full weight of the Law coming down on the driver because the insurance companies Void your insurance which means your in trouble with the Law because you don't have any insurance and then is all Snowballs.

I think the EU/UK all work around the 4 to 6% mark, In Australia most folks work around the 10% mark but that is all changing.
 

dreadlocks

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I used UK tow hitch I imported and checked UK tow spec on my diesel golf, since it had no US spec.. was 5%, like 180# tongue and 3600# tow.. tho I never went over 1500 and kept it @ ~10%, was pretty cool to get 36mpg @ 80mph with that much cargo.. one time I loaded it a lil under 10% because wife bought a bunch of heavy art on our vacation, and it drove like crap at speed.. had to readjust everything at a rest stop and put more weight on the tongue and all was fine again.

the car could never handled 3600# the brits say it could here in the mountains, mebe if your in the UK where the highest point is lower than my basement it'd fly.. IIRC most roads you cant go over 50mph towing in UK either.. so yeah its no wonder they have different ratings in countries with different infrastructure and liability laws for otherwise identical vehicles.. I dont think anyone has big trucks there, so everyone tows with everything but trucks, and slowly across a country thats nearly all concrete.
 
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john61ct

Adventurer
I think the EU/UK all work around the 4 to 6% mark, In Australia most folks work around the 10% mark but that is all changing.
Wheels are often farther forward too, weight distribution hitches required on the vehicle etc

As I said not so comparable, best for such discussions to be restricted by jurisdiction or people start talking past each other very quickly, not very useful.
 

john61ct

Adventurer
Forgot to mention, road speed limits greatly reduced when towing too

that in itself makes a **huge** difference

Stateside, if you told people not to fly along with their 12000kg trailers at 130+km/hr they wouldn't buy them at all.
 

67cj5

Man On a Mission
Forgot to mention, road speed limits greatly reduced when towing too

that in itself makes a **huge** difference

Stateside, if you told people not to fly along with their 12000kg trailers at 130+km/hr they wouldn't buy them at all.
Yeah John, I Always keep it around 50/55mph---80/90kph,

To Avoid any problems setting up my Trailer weights I just bought one of these Milenco Nose weight gauges / Hitch weight gauges, It goes up to 135kgs / 297.6Lbs and takes out all the guess work,
 

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shade

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Yeah John, I Always keep it around 50/55mph---80/90kph,

To Avoid any problems setting up my Trailer weights I just bought one of these Milenco Noes weight gauges / Hitch weight gauges, It goes up to 135kgs / 297.6Lbs and takes out all the guess work,
That's surprisingly affordable.
 

67cj5

Man On a Mission
That's surprisingly affordable.
Yeah it was about 50/55 bucks from Amazon or what ever the exchange rate works out at and they are Calibrated Accurate to within 3kgs and it comes in a Black bag to keep it safe and clean,

Here's the link but just be warned about cheaper brands because they can be as much as 40kgs out and they loose their Calibration within a year or two,

 

67cj5

Man On a Mission
I used UK tow hitch I imported and checked UK tow spec on my diesel golf, since it had no US spec.. was 5%, like 180# tongue and 3600# tow.. tho I never went over 1500 and kept it @ ~10%, was pretty cool to get 36mpg @ 80mph with that much cargo.. one time I loaded it a lil under 10% because wife bought a bunch of heavy art on our vacation, and it drove like crap at speed.. had to readjust everything at a rest stop and put more weight on the tongue and all was fine again.

the car could never handled 3600# the brits say it could here in the mountains, mebe if your in the UK where the highest point is lower than my basement it'd fly.. IIRC most roads you cant go over 50mph towing in UK either.. so yeah its no wonder they have different ratings in countries with different infrastructure and liability laws for otherwise identical vehicles.. I dont think anyone has big trucks there, so everyone tows with everything but trucks, and slowly across a country thats nearly all concrete.

Funny you should mention the Golf because I was just reading a PDF I found the other day that listed their Towing Capacities.

Yeah since I have been here I have always driven 4x4/SUV's, In Oz I always had F-Series Trucks, My current Truck/SUV can Tow 6393Lbs/2900kgs and it will do it all day long but most 26ft Travel Trailers here only go 1600kgs/3527Lbs, So I still got 2900lbs to spare, and the Speed limit when Towing one is 60mph on the main Highway and 50mph on "B" Roads, But I never bust a Gut when I am on the road anymore, If I wanna get there sooner I just leave earlier.

If you scroll down on this link you will see what I mean about their weights, ' 1715kgs / 3730Lbs

 

dreadlocks

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here in the Western US there's nothing stopping yeh from crossing UK sized badlands with a trailer doing 85mph, other than the size of your fuel tank because it might be hard to feed the beast at those speeds in such remote areas.

With golf towing it did 75-80mph no problem, after trailer got good quality radials on em.. now with much bigger trailer, I never go over 70mph because the extra fuel is not worth the time saved any faster, usually look for back routes unless its someplace miserable we just wanna get it over with (ie Kansas)... Towing has taught me to take it easy and go slow.. now we're the **************** on some back road with 40 cars behind us and open roads ahead of us.. younger me in his sports car would kick the current me in the nuts for my behavior heh.
 
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67cj5

Man On a Mission
here in the Western US there's nothing stopping yeh from crossing UK sized badlands with a trailer doing 85mph, other than the size of your fuel tank because it might be hard to feed the beast at those speeds in such remote areas.

With golf towing it did 75-80mph no problem, after trailer got good quality radials on em.. now with much bigger trailer, I never go over 70mph because the extra fuel is not worth the time saved any faster, usually look for back routes unless its someplace miserable we just wanna get it over with (ie Kansas)... Towing has taught me to take it easy and go slow.. now we're the **************** on some back road with 40 cars behind us and open roads ahead of us.. younger me in his sports car would kick the current me in the nuts for my behavior heh.
LOL, Yeah you and me Both, Gone are my days of going like a scalded Cat, Love my Trucks and SUV's too much now, I would love to buy a XL Suburban or one of the Big Expedition's, Or a Duel Cab Ram, Gotta love that massive cargo Area, Still Dreams are free and maybe one day Ay. (y)
 

67cj5

Man On a Mission
here in the Western US there's nothing stopping yeh from crossing UK sized badlands with a trailer doing 85mph, other than the size of your fuel tank because it might be hard to feed the beast at those speeds in such remote areas.

With golf towing it did 75-80mph no problem, after trailer got good quality radials on em.. now with much bigger trailer, I never go over 70mph because the extra fuel is not worth the time saved any faster, usually look for back routes unless its someplace miserable we just wanna get it over with (ie Kansas)... Towing has taught me to take it easy and go slow.. now we're the **************** on some back road with 40 cars behind us and open roads ahead of us.. younger me in his sports car would kick the current me in the nuts for my behavior heh.
Here's the UK rating for your Audi Q7, some info is shown others you need to click On,

 
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NevetsG

Active member
Getting back to the OP, the issue isn't on-road hauling, it is unhitched moving, and one simple device can solve this.

A Trailer Dolly.... There are many different variations of this, ranging from $50 to over $1K for an electric powered version.

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67cj5

Man On a Mission
Getting back to the OP, the issue isn't on-road hauling, it is unhitched moving, and one simple device can solve this.

A Trailer Dolly.... There are many different variations of this, ranging from $50 to over $1K for an electric powered version.

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Well The OP has too much stuff loaded on the Draw Bar of his trailer, and you would not need that trolley if you loaded your trailer correctly,
 

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