Tundra vs F150

[Deleted member 9101]

You can enter in a correction factor and make your mpg display more accurate.

 

[Deleted member 9101]

There has to be some reason why Tundra's resale value is so much better than any of them.

1. The Tundra typically cost more when new.

2. People assume that its reliable for no reason than it's a it's a Toyota, thus pushing up the resale value.

 

[tacollie]

1. The Tundra typically cost more when new.

2. People assume that its reliable for no reason than it's a it's a Toyota, thus pushing up the resale value.

Don't forget supply and demand. I think Ford built as many F150s last year as Tundras that have been built since 07. I found 5 F150s for every Tundra I found that for my criteria. Oddly all the F150s were beat and the Tundras were not. I had no reason to buy new so it's a little different for me.

 

[Deleted member 9101]

Don't forget supply and demand. I think Ford built as many F150s last year as Tundras that have been built since 07. I found 5 F150s for every Tundra I found that for my criteria. Oddly all the F150s were beat and the Tundras were not. I had no reason to buy new so it's a little different for me.

Oh man... the F150 destroys the Tundra in new truck sales.

One thing to remember is Toyota markets to a whole different demographic than Ford.

 

[bkg]

One thing to remember is Toyota markets to a whole different demographic than Ford.

HUH???

 

[Deleted member 9101]

HUH???

Ford and Toyota don't target the same customers.

 

[bkg]

Ford and Toyota don't target the same customers.

Apparently my question was confusing...

HUH?

The heck are you talking about?

 

[Deleted member 9101]

Apparently my question was confusing...

HUH?

The heck are you talking about?

Ford truck owners are a different demographic than Toyota truck owners... meaning that they are two separate groups with differing requirements and attributes.

 

[tacollie]

Ford targets commercial users. Toyota targets Toyota loyalist

 

[Dalko43]

1. The Tundra typically cost more when new.

2. People assume that its reliable for no reason than it's a it's a Toyota, thus pushing up the resale value.

1) Not really. In fact, the high-end trims of the F-150 cost quite a bit more than the high-end trims of the Tundra.

2) People assume that the Tundra is reliable because it has been consistently ranked as one of the most reliable trucks in North America. I'd call it an educated assumption rather than an unfounded one.

 

[bkg]

Ford targets commercial users. Toyota targets Toyota loyalist

Apologize for seeming to be dense, but I'm not sure that I agree they market to different demographics. Toyota did a major campaign against F150 a number of years ago. And if Toyota were only marketing to loyalists, they'd almost by definition, lose market share.

I just don't see the gap in the target market, sans the larger F-series commercial component (F450+)

 

[Deleted member 9101]

Apologize for seeming to be dense, but I'm not sure that I agree they market to different demographics. Toyota did a major campaign against F150 a number of years ago. And if Toyota were only marketing to loyalists, they'd almost by definition, lose market share.

I just don't see the gap in the target market, sans the larger F-series commercial component (F450+)

Lol @ market share. Look at the number of Tundras sold vs. F150's. Toyota can't compete based on performance data or price... the literailly rely solely on brand recognition and loyalty. It's the same story for all Toyota vehicles, they are rarely the top performing vehicle in any class for any amount of time.

Also, you can get a stripped down F150 for thousands less than a Tundra (as if they make a stripped down Tundra)... thus why you rarely see Tundras as fleet vehicles, yet you see countless F150's.

 

[Todd780]

You can enter in a correction factor and make your mpg display more accurate.

Oh really? How do you do that?

 

[Buliwyf]

F150 targets the fleet and work truck markets. Not so much a different demographic, just more of them. Nobody uses a Tundra on a construction site where I'm at. Nearly none of them in the wilderness, or pipelines either. Surveyors use Tundras from time to time.

Ford needs a reasonably priced Raptor XL.

 

[battleaxe]

Yet Ford Dodge Nissan and Chevy all offer a diesel and Toyota does not. They don’t offer the Toyota diesel in NA for a reason. A diesel tundra with Toyota’s longevity would probably do really well here but they don’t because they don’t want to deal with our emissions standards. The big three and Nissan dealt with it by outsourcing to the experts, have figured it out, and all make really nice trucks that outperform tundra in every category. Even lowly Nissan. https://www.asburyauto.com/compare/2019-nissan-titan-xd-vs-2019-toyota-tundra/171308.

I like to hate on Toyota because I owned a 3.0 and a Tacoma that burst into flames nearly killing me and my dog. This was after going in for the recall on Tacomas for bursting into flames.

You owned a 3.0? Like 30 years ago? Wow... I don't see how this is a bad thing? The 3.0 was a decent engine for the times, and just as comparable to anything else.

Sucks about the Tacoma, it's odd that I can't find a recall for them bursting into flames?

All sarcasm/jokes aside, at least you're able to admit that you just hate Toyota completely.

Lol @ market share. Look at the number of Tundras sold vs. F150's. Toyota can't compete based on performance data or price... the literailly rely solely on brand recognition and loyalty. It's the same story for all Toyota vehicles, they are rarely the top performing vehicle in any class for any amount of time.

Also, you can get a stripped down F150 for thousands less than a Tundra (as if they make a stripped down Tundra)... thus why you rarely see Tundras as fleet vehicles, yet you see countless F150's.

So by your thought process... The Ranger died out for 7 years because people are brand whores? It couldn't possibly have been because the Tacoma outperformed the Ranger in every way imaginable...

How about the first gen Colorado/Canyon? Toyota couldn't possibly have built a better truck than those gems...