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DiscoD
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What model Colt is it? I've never seen a Colt that looks like this one. Everything about it differs from a Colt AR. The stock, the barrel, trigger, rails, sights, the entire upper receiver.........
What model Colt is it? I've never seen a Colt that looks like this one. Everything about it differs from a Colt AR. The stock, the barrel, trigger, rails, sights, the entire upper receiver.........
1leglance
2007 Expedition Trophy Champion, Overland Certifie
Just because you haven't seen a Colt like this one...does that mean it can't be a Colt?
Oh and I never said there wasn't craftsmanship and beauty in these firearms...I said I really don't feel these images have anything to do with the core concept of "expo"...
You can't take these on international trips..
These aren't your classic safari rifles...
These aren't hunting firearms...
You can't take these on multi-state US trips or into many state or national parks (I know the National Parks thing has changed a bit)..
We have a tough enough time fighting the image the public holds of "offroaders" and "wheelers", trying to set us apart as upstanding outdoor stewards it also tough when a quick google image search makes us look like "black ops" kit totting wanna be's (nothing personal against Street Wolf).
xcmountain80
Expedition Leader
So now were worried about what people think about us again, huh? I get you don't want to be stereotyped but to ask or suggest sterilization could be a bit much. If I've missed the point please try again.
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Street Wolf
Guest
Wow really? I wake up and this thread has already gone this far? Delete the damn thing if needed, it's not providing any real useful information so it's no big loss to most of the community or myself. Only one it's going to hurt is DiscoD (moderator editited out crude reference not tolerated on expo) not being able to act like he actually knows what he's talking about.
Well to begin with I didn't really feel the need to since you can clearly see the word 'Colt' and the Colt logo in a few of the original pictures. Or at least on my computer screen I can.
Well to begin with I didn't really feel the need to since you can clearly see the word 'Colt' and the Colt logo in a few of the original pictures. Or at least on my computer screen I can.
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1leglance
2007 Expedition Trophy Champion, Overland Certifie
Street you are not helping your case by calling names so don't, and that goes for everyone else thus the public vs pm post on this.
If you have something to say then act like a gentleman and say it in a civil way. That goes for everyone.
Yes I am very very worried about what people think...land managing people, voting people, law making people, gun hating people, private land owning people...lots of people.
And I am not for sterilization but style-zation if you will. I really would like to see the public image of a 4x4 driver be something positive, someone who seeks remote places and historical sites, someone who can help researchers get to remote areas, someone who values the land and does shoot it up or leave trash.
Here in the southwest we have tons of areas where shooters have destroyed stoves, fridges, couches, cactus, trees, signs and so much more. That means that being seen with a big black assault rifle (vs my concealed carry glock) groups me with that destructive crowd.
Now if I am showing off my finely crafted breakdown bird gun or my classic safari elephant gun then people don't evoke the same mental images.
We as off highway travelers have to start thinking about our image since what we are currently doing is failing miserably, judging by our constant battles for land access and our losses we need to do something.
Or we can continue zombie talk, post pics of are arsenal and generally feed the wrong perspective people have of us.
If you have something to say then act like a gentleman and say it in a civil way. That goes for everyone.
Yes I am very very worried about what people think...land managing people, voting people, law making people, gun hating people, private land owning people...lots of people.
And I am not for sterilization but style-zation if you will. I really would like to see the public image of a 4x4 driver be something positive, someone who seeks remote places and historical sites, someone who can help researchers get to remote areas, someone who values the land and does shoot it up or leave trash.
Here in the southwest we have tons of areas where shooters have destroyed stoves, fridges, couches, cactus, trees, signs and so much more. That means that being seen with a big black assault rifle (vs my concealed carry glock) groups me with that destructive crowd.
Now if I am showing off my finely crafted breakdown bird gun or my classic safari elephant gun then people don't evoke the same mental images.
We as off highway travelers have to start thinking about our image since what we are currently doing is failing miserably, judging by our constant battles for land access and our losses we need to do something.
Or we can continue zombie talk, post pics of are arsenal and generally feed the wrong perspective people have of us.
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DiscoD
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No, it doesn't. But this is not the first time this gun has been posted by StreetWolf (Moderator edited name calling, it just isn't allowed) on this web site. This is not the first time he's been asked to verify the make and model of the gun, either.
If this gun turns out to really be a Colt, I'll learn something new. At this point I'm just struggling with the credibility of the OP.
That could be said about a lot of things on this site. Have you seen some of the "builds" on this site? If you want to protect the public image of the Expo site, maybe you should start with some of these trucks....better yet start with some of the photos of trucks doing illegal activity on OHV trails.
If you do not like AR style weapons, fine. You're not hurting my feelings any. But to say these type guns do not share a place with people who love the outdoors is just ridicules. Claiming that you cannot carry this type weapon into other States or Countries is just a failed attempt at you trying to justify your reasoning to share your opinion.
Like an AR, in some States the Taurus Judge is illegal to possess. Given your stance on guns, should a personal defense weapon such as the Judge not be discussed on Expo? Lets review what you said and apply this to a personal defense weapon such as the Taurus Judge:
-You can't take these on international trips..
-These aren't your classic safari rifles...
-These aren't hunting firearms...
-You can't take these on multi-state US trips or into many state or national parks
Are you taking the stance that the people on Expo should not be carrying? Or that they should just not be talking about it?
It's the people such as yourself who try and keep gun talk hush-hush to protect some sort of mysterious image you do not want others to know about or associate you with. That's fluffy bunnies. The word "gun" is not a dirty word and owning and shooting guns is not a bad or shameful or illegal hobby.
You played the "I own guns" card and I think it's funny. That's just like playing the "I'm not a racist because I have black friends" card.
Lumping the AR style weapons into the political uncorrectness category puts AR's in the same class as sex-swingers and atheists'. There is nothing illegal about an AR and I think it should be talked about openly. It's our 2nd Amendment right to own firearms and just because you do not like pistol grips and hand shrouds does not mean these type weapons do not belong on an outdoor enthusiast web site. You feel these weapons have a negative impact on the overall image of 4-wheelers or overlanders or expeditionites or whatever you want to call yourself. It's people with viewpoints such as yours that these style weapon have become scary. What's so scary about an AR, the carry handle?
I, for one, carry some sort gun on every trip I do. Sometimes that's a Glock, other times it's an AR or shotgun. Sometimes it's more than two or three guns. I like to shoot guns and I'm sure other on this site do, too. But saying that AR's do not fit into the helm of things on Expo is a drastic ploy into your shameful anti-gun views. I bet you voted for Obama.
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stu454
Guest
Several people hunt with AR rifles; as an example, my father-in-law has taken 5 deer with his Colt SP1.
Worrying that an Express rifle will be more favorably viewed than an AR is a bit absurd, IMO. If someone doesn't like guns they won't be pleased with either a 1935 H&H double in .375 Flanged or an AR with every whiz-bang tacticool accessory.
A nut could likely kill more people in 2 seconds with the H&H than an AR, especially in a very crowded environment; in a mall a single .375 solid would go through several people before stopping.
Two rounds from that classic double could kill twenty people with two shots in about 2 seconds.
Unlikely, but possible.
Worrying that an Express rifle will be more favorably viewed than an AR is a bit absurd, IMO. If someone doesn't like guns they won't be pleased with either a 1935 H&H double in .375 Flanged or an AR with every whiz-bang tacticool accessory.
A nut could likely kill more people in 2 seconds with the H&H than an AR, especially in a very crowded environment; in a mall a single .375 solid would go through several people before stopping.
Two rounds from that classic double could kill twenty people with two shots in about 2 seconds.
Unlikely, but possible.
Scott Brady
Founder
Well, the gun is certainly a Colt.
Regarding this forum, it does say hunting and guns. Guns can absolutely be a part of adventure travel and an enjoyable/related activity. Guns have always been a part of my life.
Regarding this forum, it does say hunting and guns. Guns can absolutely be a part of adventure travel and an enjoyable/related activity. Guns have always been a part of my life.
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Street Wolf
Guest
Next I expect to be questioned as to whether or not I can get video of it being fired to prove it's not made out of plastic.
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gabepari
Explorer
I'd like to see a self portrait to prove that you are, indeed, a wolf :victory:
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Street Wolf
Guest
Sorry, the wolf part of me is all in my head. I took a mental snapshot anyways, however I just can't figure out how to upload it with my USB cable.
tmac
Adventurer
But then someone may say it's not a wolf :sombrero:
R_Lefebvre
Expedition Leader
No, I'm an expert on such matters, and I think you're really a Coyote.
Mr. Leary
Glamping Excursionaire
WOW!
Scott, I'm glad there are people like you who give the benefit of the doubt. I tend to react badly when I see attacks such as those.
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I am now a little worried about posting pics of my guns on this site. Lance, IF I show one, I'll just post a link. Work for you?
BTW. Wolf, nice peice!
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