This looks like a nice point-of-use drinking water solution. It would be helpful if Waterdrop provided a few more performance metrics for the UV purifier. I will be curious to learn what the people around here that are knowledgeable on the subject think of this.
Water purification, LED UV, specifics....
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IdaSHO
IDACAMPER
Just to stir this up again, as I may be digging into it soon...
We have been looking at picking up properties in WA, OR, or both.
While snooping around looking at some very rural off-grid lands,
I figured Id check in on the legality of rainwater collection.
Oregon has a guide for it, link below...
Included are these bits regarding filtration and purification, that pertain to the discussion at hand.
And while this also includes domestic hookup (via RP connection), it still holds some value to lay things out.
We have been looking at picking up properties in WA, OR, or both.
While snooping around looking at some very rural off-grid lands,
I figured Id check in on the legality of rainwater collection.
Oregon has a guide for it, link below...
Included are these bits regarding filtration and purification, that pertain to the discussion at hand.
And while this also includes domestic hookup (via RP connection), it still holds some value to lay things out.
IdaSHO
IDACAMPER
This is neat for separating the first bit of rain coming off of a roof.
www.rainharvest.com
I've thought a lot about remote rec properties and worry about squatters. I guess if they are really remote it would filter out the riff raff as they won't want to be too far away from drug sources. Also if the property doesn't have an address they are not likely to establish residency.
Rain Harvesting Pty 3 Inch First Flush - Rainwater Collection and Stormwater Management
The RainHarvesting® First Flush Downspout Diverter. A simple and effective first flush water diverter that requires minimal maintenance.
I've thought a lot about remote rec properties and worry about squatters. I guess if they are really remote it would filter out the riff raff as they won't want to be too far away from drug sources. Also if the property doesn't have an address they are not likely to establish residency.
Littleredridinghood
New member
Does anyone have an opinion on this filter: https://www.aquastardistributors.com/product/seagull-iv-x-2kb/
Found it on http://dinoevo.de/fresh-water-system/ from another thread. Looks to be incredibly robust but quite expensive. The filters also need to be changed every 2,000gal vs 1,000gal from other filters, but again are more expensive. On the other hand, we plan on traveling globally and I would probably pay the money to not get sick.
Found it on http://dinoevo.de/fresh-water-system/ from another thread. Looks to be incredibly robust but quite expensive. The filters also need to be changed every 2,000gal vs 1,000gal from other filters, but again are more expensive. On the other hand, we plan on traveling globally and I would probably pay the money to not get sick.
dstefan
Well-known member
I don’t have one, but can tell you that Seagull is a very respected brand/product in the marine world. They own/produce the First Need line of backpacking filters which I did use years ago and filtered some truly awful water with. Trusted them completely — never got sick. At the time, the First Needs (which were the same filter tech inside as the Seagull marine filters) was the approved field issue for the EPA, which says something.
If you like the specs and the format and don’t mind the price, I don’t think you’d have anything to worry about in terms of the water it outputs.
If you like the specs and the format and don’t mind the price, I don’t think you’d have anything to worry about in terms of the water it outputs.
Littleredridinghood
New member
Appreciate you sharing your experience. I like that it doesn't need power to operate. All the (fairly new) technology surrounding LED UV filters has my head spinning as I research. The Seagull eliminates that analysis headache haha.
bernardocolorado
Member
So most consumer grade UV products are not enough (including the Guzzle Stream).
How about this?
No UV, filters down to 5micron. Feasible alternative as a "plug 'n play" solution?
How about this?
No UV, filters down to 5micron. Feasible alternative as a "plug 'n play" solution?
dstefan
Well-known member
Probably. The virus guard 2nd filter is rated at .02 microns, which is what you want (in the Q&A section on the website).
DirtWhiskey
Western Dirt Rat
A few issues.
- That thing is huge, bigger than my 2k genset and more money too.
-2nd, carbon is best used at point of use for drinking/cooking water if you're filtering municipal water. Most muni water has chlorine or chloramine, more on that later. That stuff is good for your tanks to keep bio down, hence point of use.
-You also are wasting carbon to shower in it or flush with it.
Building a 2/3 stage block and pump is extremely easy and cheap and you can build them compact with 5-10 inch cartridges. An external pump has many more uses too, wash down, outside showers etc. On carbon, activated carbon removes chlorine, not chloramine, which is fairly common for cities now. For chloramine and other volatiles you need "catalytic carbon".
I'm building my filter block now. It'll be 2 stage because I need it small. Sediment, then virus (.02 micron for "wild" water) filtration into the tank. Then carbon at the sink for drinking and cooking with a tap for outside water container filling as I always have a jug for around camp. If wanted to get crazy I'd add a 2nd undersink block for catalytic carbon, but that's a little overkill for a truck camper IMHO.
Be sure to size your pump right for the flow rating of the filter blocks. I've looked at UV and agree it's more hassle than it's worth right now with such great filtration options. Love to see a large backflushable hollow-membrane filter like my backpacking filters with pumpable flow rates. Anybody ever heard of such a thing?
BTW I'm obsessive about water as I own a few cocktail bars in Utah where we make/cut/bandsaw our own blocks. Carbon and catalytic backwash systems etc.