What about expedition trailers?

Nullifier

Expedition Leader
Scenic WonderRunner said:
Thanks Michael,

I realized they were too big when I found these.

Only $800 bucks and never been used!



http://www.futurelogistics.ca/AftermarketSales.html


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Man I'd love to get one of those. but to far to ship I think. It would cost as much as the trailer.


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I'd love to get one of those they look in top shape. Just wish I wasn't so far. Shipping would probably be more then the trailer.
 

Mike S

Sponsor - AutoHomeUSA
Steve

Why not drop an e-mail to mario@adventuretrailers.com
I am sure he will oblige. This stuff is the bomb!

Mario is a straight shooter, and builds a super tough trailer. I saw one at the shop that was rolled on the highway at 65 MPH and still totally functional - tho' bashed up a bit.

I would not hesitate to buy one of these trailers.

Mike
 

elcoyote

Supporting Sponsor, Overland Certified OC0004
Hey Grouseman,

Drop me a line at mario@adventuretrailers.com and we can talk suspension off the thread. I have had some requests from people who would like to put our suspension on their 416's & 101's. As I have told them, it is not a simple bolt on affair like a torsion or leaf spring axle. It is built into the chassis by design and requires our shop tooling to set it up correctly for camber and toe in. In the spirit of safety and in all good conscience we cannot sell these components seperately. Although it may look simple in appearance, with our experience in developing off road trailers, this took 6 months and 3 generations of design to make this work correctly. And work it does! In its' third generation, it has exceeded our expectaions both on & off road. Check out the pix of Alex playing in Moab this week and you'll understand that there is none other like it. Yeehaw! :Wow1:
 

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Grouseman

Adventurer
Design

Mario,

Congratulations on having probably the best trailer out there for outback, expedition camping. It must be nice to be the best. I have just started camping again after many years, but I don't do the desert, rock climbing, etc like you guys get to do out West. My camping will be off old logging roads, etc, mild stuff compared to out there. I am getting ready to make mods to my 101 for that type camping. I was trying to get ideas on how to modify my 101 for a smooth off road scenario. Some have suggested taking out a few of the leafs 3-4, and then changing out the shocks that are on there. Probably will try that first.

Grouseman
 

BajaTaco

Swashbuckler
:Wow1: Damn, those pics are worth more than a thousand words... :cool: Nice! The pics don't even really do that bowl justice... it's steeeeep.
 

elcoyote

Supporting Sponsor, Overland Certified OC0004
BT, Steep indeed. I can't even walk up that stuff without my FiveTennies

Grouseman, I have never tried removing leaves from a conventional suspension but the theory makes sense. If I were to experiment with something like that I would probably take out enough leaves to make the suspension supple with the trailer unladen and install a set of Firestone air bags to take over the load carrying duties and install some shocks to dampen the action so the trailer doesn't launch after coming out of the ruts. That way I could have a spring soft enough to follow the road contours but enjoy the benefits of the progressive loading properties of the air bag. IMO a shock that is valved 50/50 would work best for the application. Firestone makes a ton of kits for pick up trucks. You could mix & macth their mounting hardware to fit you application. A good source for air bags and hardware selection is Macs Spring, a local mod shop. They have an informative website at www.macsspring.com and are very helpful over the phone. Good luck buddy!
 

Grouseman

Adventurer
101

Mario,

Thanks for the information. I will try my little 101 on a trip this weekend. After going off-road I will know if the suspension needs to a little tinkering.

Thanks
Gman
 

flywgn

Explorer
On the subject of trailers, suspensions, etc., Mario, notice today is MAY 1st!!

Thirty days 'til June.....>>>:jumping: Just got back from places where we're looking forward to having BC Jr.

Allen R.
 

Grouseman

Adventurer
M101

elcoyote said:
So how did it go?

Mario,

Actually just got back from the "Banks" today. The little 101 did fantastic. We couldn't even feel it behind the Cruiser. Every once in a while I would have to look back to make sure it was there. Damn nice trailer. We did a few mods before leaving. Of course we have lots more to do now, after our first trip. We probably had 250 pounds of stuff and it rode very well, not bouncy at all.

Gman
 

atavuss

Adventurer
:arabia:
Grouseman said:
Mario,

Actually just got back from the "Banks" today. The little 101 did fantastic. We couldn't even feel it behind the Cruiser. Every once in a while I would have to look back to make sure it was there. Damn nice trailer. We did a few mods before leaving. Of course we have lots more to do now, after our first trip. We probably had 250 pounds of stuff and it rode very well, not bouncy at all.

Gman

Pictures man! gotta see pictures!
 

Doin_It

Adventurer
I think "expedition trailers" has got to be the most viewed post here, though the Morocco challenge has been a hit also. Waiting for this to go over 4000 views. So I think it must be everyones hidden desire to have a trailer for more comfort in the sleeping department and the ability to pack more beers with them when they go out camping that makes this thread so popular. I know I want one, so am working on having one built.
 

Grouseman

Adventurer
ATA,

Just got my 35 mm pictures developed. Will put some on disk and display here. Actually got some pretty darn good ones this trip.

Gman
 

Grim Reaper

Expedition Leader
You guys are killing me here!

I have some sort of trailer disorder or something. I just love them...in particular outfitting and building them.

So how many people are building their own?

I tend to do my offroad exploring without the wife and kids. Wife likes getting out but I tend to go with the 4x4 club and that has worked out to be more my deal then hers. When the family goes camping the Airstream and Suburban will be involved.


I needed a little cargo trailer a few years back before I had the Sub. Haul mowers, building stuff for the house and junk like that. It started life as a $450 wire mesh floor 5x8 utility trailer with a 3500 lb axle and 15 inch wheels.

My trail truck was just that... a trail truck. Always ready to go trail riding for a day trip but seldom had camping gear in it. Most of the trails in the SE are day runs. So a base camp is pretty normal. I would throw some camping gear on the little 5x8 so I didn't have to pack the truck full. Drop the trailer at camp and hit the trail.

I like camping except for the tent on the ground.....Every time I have been tent camping I end up on a flat air mattress with a rock in the middle of my back and a critter ends up in there with me most times, or sopping wet in the rain with a river running under and through the tent then spending a day drying out all my gear or all of the above. So the last day was sort of miserable then having to go home wet and deal with the gear for several hours so it wouldn't mildew.

I got the bright idea to enclose this trailer after getting caught in the rain again. I had set the tent on the bed of the trailer that time because it was already raining by the time we got to camp. So not nearly as wet but the Mattress went flat again but no rock in the back this time.

So I built the "Redneck Special". See picture below. After it was all said and done and a wreck that necessitated building a new frame later It ended up being 5x10 ( 5x8x 5.5 inside main box) about 6.5-7ft overall width with tires. The front 2ft houses storage boxes for gear, Battery for running lights and fan and space for 3 Jerry cans and it will haul enough wood for a weekend with the club. The camper shell has screened windows to fend off the bugs and no jammed zippers. The roof rack on the back has extensions to support a 12ftx12ft canopy to keep the rain out of the back and it supports a tarp over the front that works as a rain fly for the side windows. It also leaves some air space and helps keep it cool in the day.

The inside is still bare for cargo duties. I have a little frame that screws in real quick to support a spare twin mattress off my kids trundle bed. Its ugly as it gets but it does the job.

So I went to Dixie run first weekend in October at Tellico (primitive camping)..Everybody looks at it makes comments and giggles. That night pouring rain they are all under my canopy using my grill. I go to sleep in a nice REAL bed it gets down to 28......and snows LOL.

So next morning everybody but me and the folks that had actual campers are wet and miserable. It seals pretty good so it wasn't so bad in my little homebuilt even without a heater. Wadded up my tarps and bungee them down on the front box and headed home. Other then two tarps I could throw over the car in the garage I had nothing to dry out. It worked out better then expected.


Now I downsized from a K5 Jimmy with a 350 v8 down to a first gen 4Runner with a 4cyl.....The "Redneck special" is a little more then the 4 banger is happy with (I over built the frame so its not lite). Fact of the matter is I could almost get the 4 runner IN the redneck special.

So I am back to looking at a new trailer thats down sized as well. Redneck special will become just a cargo trailer again to be towed by the Suburban.

Now I am as cheap as they come and I like building. I have welders and ways to cut and fabricate. So it sort of irks me to lay out cash on something I can build.

My options:

1. I know somebody that has M101 thats rough and had the back hacked up. Its $250 and I figure it needs at the very least $250 to get it back into basic shape. Then do this http://www.muttmotorpool.com/M416_camper.html to get me where I would be happy with it.

I may buy this regardless because restored I can get $800 if not more for it if I don't end up needing it. It would be handy for running to the home store for stuff. It only costs $25 a year for tags so keeping an extra trailer is not a big outlay if the neighbors won't lynch you for it.

2. I have come to own several aluminum double door boxes (doors on opposite ends). They are 28x32x20. I have 4 that are identical. If they were 40 inches on the long side they would be perfect for expedition trailer. I also have some empty shells of similar width and lengths that would make for a dandy Aluminum body trailer. A quick C channel frame and a little work and I would have a good trailer. Some quick math it would end up having a main body about 7ft long I would have widen the boxes to 40 inches for the front part of the body. That would allow it to track the same as the vehicle towing it. Again add or make a top style tent.

3. Tear drop style....Whats to say...they are just as cool as they get and can be made very light. No need to for a tent (did I mention I really hate tents?) at all but there is more expense and a LOT of build time involved.

4. I may have a chance to get a liner style pickup truck drop in work body. Possibly for free. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for this one.

Its like a work shell with flip up side doors but it has a full floor. The floor has a built in full length aluminum drawer and it has a full length bed slide that would make an instant table 30x50 that will require no other support. At night it would be the bed frame.

Put two of my aluminum boxes stacked on the front to house battery and some gear and a small water tank 20lb propane tank on the that for a camp grill and lantern. Its a Short bed style thats 80 inches long. With the boxes it would be just over 8ft plus the Hitch length. Rig up my canopy extension and It would be good to go. http://www.brandfxbody.com/fibrebody/inserts.htm thats the body. Put some camper windows in it that have screens and a power roof vent. .Not nearly as heavy as you would think either. About 300lb plus about 70lb for the bed slider. A little wider then I would like but should be able keep it down to under 6ft over all width. So it would track about 8 inches wider then the 4Runner. Thats livable. Hight would end up around 6.5 ft on the trailer.

The big plus is the price if I get it for free. Looking about $250 for a 6 lug axle with brakes, $300 or so in materials. Its probably going to come in around the same weight as I would build a tear drop or the other trailer. It already has internal lighting. Great storage systems in place already with the one side door having a full length set of shelves add a fold out table to set a small stove on and would make an instant kitchen area. Its already water tight. Even if it does leak its all fiberglass so no rot issues. Has about the same head room as a tear drop. Would not be pretty but it would be functional with less effort then my other ideas.
 

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